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Old 11-29-2004, 07:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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New Teenager to the site, Wanting a 240sx for first car. Opinions?

Whats up everyone, Hows it going? Well lately ive been really liking 240sx's. For about 4 months now. I'm about to start driving "Permit" but i know alot about cars. I just cant drive them yet lol. I am mature for my age so i tend to buy the best of the best aka Gibson guitar hahaha, without knowing how to play that well. So you can get where im comng from. Now 240 wise, I was looking into the 93' Hatch. Is this a good choice? I'd love a kouki S14 but there entirely expensive for a first car, I've seen bad shape ones for 6k. I have about 2k max. I'd really not like to have a honda or a beater. Just a nice running 240 with a good KA in it. I know im not going to get one with an SR in it. So basically i want a good solid car, no rust, no bad interior/exterior damage, some bad paint is fine though. Just nothing serious or big money. What do you guys think i should do? Is this a Good choice? Give me your opinions, I hope my dream of having a fast, reliable, and nice/ simple 240 can come true before i reach 18 haha. Thank you very much. Take care all.


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If you're into buying the best of the best don't buy a 240sx. It used to be a nice cheap sports car (even when it was brand new) but prices for the car are just dumb now. Its on ok car, but be sure you absolutely want it before jumping into it.
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well i really like the design of the sr20det engines. and i like the way you can keep the car simple, it still look nice and its fairly light. there is also alot of parts out there for it isnt there? im pretty sure i made my decision. im paying for the whole thing also. i dont use my parents money lol.

well thanks for your opinion.
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get an ae86 there super light, cheaper than 240's and just as much if not more fun. i have one fore sale!! 86 sr5 $1200 91 i would say is the best year for the 240. keep doing research, thats my word of advice
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well i really like the design of the sr20det engines. and i like the way you can keep the car simple, it still look nice and its fairly light. there is also alot of parts out there for it isnt there? im pretty sure i made my decision. im paying for the whole thing also. i dont use my parents money lol.

well thanks for your opinion.
Well you already said that you're pretty sure that your decision is made, but I wouldn't recommend a 240 for a new driver. For one, not everyone can handle a RWD car, and being young you're more prone to get into trouble and/or an accident. I've had my bad experiences with my stock 240 in the rain (RWD and no LSD isn't always fun, especially when the "fun" is unintentional).

Also, what does the design of the SR have to do with your car? you want a cheap, reliable car with a good KA (so you say)...

Don't get me wrong, they're good cars, reliable if taken care of, etc, but I wouldn't see myself recommending one to a young first time driver. For your safety, and for the safety of the car (seeing as how there aren't THAT many of them).

Your best best is to get a cheap car that's better on gas (I recommend something FWD or maybe even AWD just until you learn how to drive and get a grasp on how to control a car in general), because since 240's have grown in popularity like aznyo15 said, they're not as cheap as they used to be.
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Don't get me wrong you can still get a 240 for cheap and in good condition. Its just MUCH harder than it was 4 years ago.
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in the south it's near impossible to find a five-speed 240 let alone cheap. make sure your first car is a 5-speed this is the best time to learn.
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a 240sx is by far not the "best of the best" so you're probably too mature for it. you should probably be driving an mkiv, viper, m3, or rs6.
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I say go for it, I got a pretty good condition s14 for $2300, so deals are out there, you just have to look...

Just watch out for that rwd in the rain, itll bite ya in the ass if you dont watch out for it. My advice would be to go play around in an EMPTY OUT OF THE WAY parking lot or whatever, and learn how to correct slides and such. I also wouldnt reccomend learning how to drive on a stick...its hard enough without having to worry about that whole element...

Just some advice...I went through that deal a while ago (well, not really a while, Im only 17...)
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if you want the best i have a 325i for sale but you would need more than 2k
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For starting drivers I think its best to learn on a really cheap beater. My first car in hs was a 87 camry and it took a beating. It also made me appreciate the 240 a lot more than I would've if I had driven it from the start (people say its slow but I think its super fast when I think of my camry that didnt even make it up hills)
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For starting drivers I think its best to learn on a really cheap beater. My first car in hs was a 87 camry and it took a beating. It also made me appreciate the 240 a lot more than I would've if I had driven it from the start (people say its slow but I think its super fast when I think of my camry that didnt even make it up hills)
yea i agree with everyone, but if your minds made up, its made up. My first car was a 90 Pathfinder, but it was shared, but the first car i can say that was all mine, was an 85 Cressida. Those things could move, and i used to beat the sh*t out of it. 239,000 miles and sold it for $400 and got my 240.
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and S134 I may know someone who may be interested in the RS5, we have been talking about going spliting a car like that 3 ways between us.

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If you have a permit still just be patient and wait for a good deal. If you stick at it you'll get one.
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If you have a permit still just be patient and wait for a good deal. If you stick at it you'll get one.
Hell I was looking for a black fastback s13 that was manual and no rust

and I was going to put intake, lowering and get 17s, stuts, ground kit for it and about 5 months of searching and not settling on one, I got one with all of those and it came with the upgrades above that I wanted to put into it.

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if you want the best i have a 325i for sale but you would need more than 2k
The 3-series was invented in order to sell BMWs to people who couldn't afford the higher level BMWs, it's not exactly the best of the best either.

What he's looking for is an M5 or a 7-Series.

Oh, and this thread is hilarious, by the way.
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easy guys... i appricate all the good advice, but you totally are just trying to take that "i like the best things" a little to far. i didnt mean i was to good for anything. i just dont really like to learn on beginner stuff. and i dont like bmw's or expensive cars. so if its possible, cut the sarcasm. thank you.
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and also, why is this thread hilarious?


good god, all i was doing is getting some friendly advice. shit
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easy guys... i appricate all the good advice, but you totally are just trying to take that "i like the best things" a little to far. i didnt mean i was to good for anything. i just dont really like to learn on beginner stuff. and i dont like bmw's or expensive cars. so if its possible, cut the sarcasm. thank you.
so you're too good for sarcasm too?
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where do you surf at? how long etc.

i useed ot surf alot, probably 5+ hours a day but now i preffer a different type of sliding
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dou you do any of the contest over there like easterns or anything
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Why are there so many people being compete dicks to this guy. Ever since the so called "bandwagon" arrived, you guys have been really pissed off, and I don't see why you are trying to convince him not to buy one. Are you afraid that one more person is going to get a 240? Whoopty fucking do, one person won't make a difference. Anyways, the recent demand for 240's is just going to make them go up in value, so if nothing else, be happy for this change in events. What difference does it make if a bunch of people are ricing out 240's now? Does it change the car? No, it does not. It is still the same great car it was before the boom. Stop worrying about everyone else, and start worrying about yourself, because you are the one with the problem, not these kids buying 240's. Obviously you guys think it is a great car, otherwise you wouldn't own one, and you wouldn't be on a 240 message board. So, let's be honest. It would make a good first car. The only good reason given in this thread for not buying one, was the fact that it is a rwd car, and that is only because he is a new driver.

(I put bandwagon in quotes because no one gives a flying fuck about 240's in west Texas, so I have not seen this "bandwagon" you people speak of.)
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$2k might be a stretch for a nicer S13, but I imagine that it can be done, you just need to be willing to take your time and wait for a good deal. People buy/sell a lot of cars on these very forums, so pay close attention to the "for sale" area. Also, you see S13s come up for sale quite often on both NICO (nicoclub.com) and Club 4AG (www.club4ag.com). As an owner of the aforementioned Kouki S14, I can say that they are damned nice cars, I like it better than my old WRX, but I did pay through the nose for the thing ($9800 for a '98). S13s are great cars too, I'd wait for one. Other options are as follows however:

FC3S RX-7: N/A FC's last a very long time, turbo FCs are more fun but require constant maintenance/rebuilds. They're very cool cars, I work on them all the time at a friend's garage, and my roommate has a '91 Turbo II (paid exactly $2k for it, actually). You should be able to find an N/A FC (86-91) for $2k or under pretty easily.

Mk. III Supra Turbo: Heavy as hell, but you can take a lot of weight off 'em. Engines are fun to work with. Very underrated car, priced cheap for what you get. Replacement OEM parts are pricey though.

AE86 (85-87 Corolla GT-S/SR-5): Initial D and all that aside, it's a good car. Many are in crap condition though, and overpriced. Don't lay down $2k for one unless it's in REALLY good condition, avoid rusted cars like the plague.

Other fun cars (not drifters): 88-89 Corolla FX-16, Mazda 323 GTX, Toyota ST-165 Celica All-Trac (rare), 90-91 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 (rarer).
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