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My V8 S13 build thread (VH45DE)

Hey guys, the timeline may be a little off on these because it's a copy / paste from another forum where I have been posting this. You may also notice some additional info in there since I was posting it on a local forum for people who may not be as fluent in Nissans. I started this about the middle of August last year and just started back on it after it being on the back burner through the holidays. Enjoy!
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I just picked this thing up a few days ago. It's a 93 240SX coupe and I've got a 96 VH45DE V8 to go in it from a Q45. I'll be using a 5-speed transmission from a 300ZX (Z32) since q45's are all auto. The plan right now is to get the engine in and running and driving and then I pull it back out for a small wire tuck, seam welding and fresh paint.

How I got it:
Pretty stock roller with a 5-lug conversion, Z32 brakes, Tein springs and some Liquid Metal 18" wheels




Engine mounts and crossmember from Xcessive Manufacturing... These are solid mounts. I've never had an engine solid mounted in a car, but these are recommended due to the tight clearances in the engine bay. I'll give them a shot, but might pull them in favor of some mazworx mounts. I've heard that the VH is very well balanced, so I guess I'll find out for sure.


I had a couple hours tonight so I got started.
Removed the ridiculously huge wheels and test fitted my Works. I'm happier with the look and fitment as the offset is not quite as agressive. I might have to roll the fenders a little, but shouldn't have to pull them at all.





The Works do clear the 300zx brakes with a 1/4 spacer.. May just grind the calipers a little because I would rather not have to run it.


Then I put the car on stands and took the wheels off. I'll be selling the 18's soon most likely.

The next order of business was to remove the bellhousing from the Z32 transmission so I can send it off to Mazworx to be machined for their adapter plate.

EEW! at least there were no big chunks of crap, but I'll be taking a closer look at everything inside soon.


Broken front plate: The tube that the throw out bearing rides on is broken off for some reason. Anyone have one laying around?





LOL That'll work.


And the bellhousing all cleaned up and ready to be shipped out tomorrow:
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My VH/VG adapter arrived today! I am VERY impressed with the quality of work over at Mazworx. I actually called Mark this afternoon just to complimented him. I ordered the adapter kit, bellhousing maching and a new front transmission cover (to replace my broken one). I'll let the pics speak for themselves...

You can see that the adapter makes the transmission sit flush with the engine and the bolt holes line up perfectly.





I also had them repair the bellhousing which was hacked up by the machine shop that attempted to make the previous adapter plate. They grinded material from it so it would clear the adapter plate bolts. Very ghetto indeed. Here is a before. After pics of the repair can be seen above.


I was going to bolt it up and drop it in this evening, but after removing the ghetto adapter plate, I realized that they just grinded off the dowel pins that are in the block. I drilled and tapped them. The first one I threaded a bolt into and them pulled it out. The second one actually started spinning while tapping it, so I pulled it out with the tap. Now I have to wait on new dowels...


Picked up my flywheel from republic diesel:

The dowel pics were going to take a few days to get in, so I just got some 3/8 rod and made some:

Also picked up a pair of S15 seats the other day:


I've got a few things to do early this evening, but tonight the transmission is going back together and hopefully bolted to the engine and dropped in.
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Small update while I'm taking a break:

Getting started:


Flywheel and adapter installed:


Bellhousing test fit:


Attached the starter to be sure it would spin the engine:


Sweet!

Flywheel


Clutch


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Bellhousing installed:


New front cover:


I still can't believe the precision of this plate!!! Trans slipped right on.


Getting tired so dropping it in might have to wait until tomorrow... Waffle house is calling my name!
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Well, I work for the state and today is our first furlough day. Yay for a day off without pay... At least I can get this thing in...
Bay is ready for the engine

Mounts on
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Todays progress:





The engine dropped in easily but it took me about 2 hours measuring and adjusting the final position. The bolt holes in the mounts provide plenty of adjustment. I'm pretty pleased with clearance I ended up with. I might have to get a smaller brake booster when the valve covers go on and it looks like I will be relocation the fuse box, but most everything else is good.

Oil filter clearance:


Firewall:


P side head: (looks like heater hose routing will be fun)


Oil pan vs sway bar (There's about 1/8" clearance)


Shifter:
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Haven't made much progress since the last update because I was waiting on parts. The v-band flanges and clamps finally came in, so I extended the manifolds and welded flanges on them. This was the next step because I knew the engine would have to come back up to get the manifolds off and didn't want to get everything hooked up just to take it back off... Good thing because I couldn't get the driver side off at all, so I pulled the engine and trans back out and welded them while still attached.

My new injectors and o2 sensors also arrived, so I'll be working on getting everything hooked up this weekend.
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I had a little time over the weekend to work on the car. Mostly did little things like scraping old gaskets and prepping the upper intake manifold and valve covers to go on. The guy I got the engine from powdercoated the valve covers, so I decided I should pull the baffle off and get any sand out leftover from sand blasting. Good thing I did because there was a pretty good amount in there...
Before full of sand:



After pressure washing:



Then last night I had a couple more hours to burn, so I started putting the cooland stuff and lower IM back on as well as the new injectors. I know you like the heater hose job. (that will be corrected soon)


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Had an hour the other night:
I had to chase all the threads on the valve covers because they were full of paint / gunk / sand

Got them sealed up and bolted down

That's a lot of spark plugs!

Coil packs on.
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Got all the vacum hoses ran on the engine and the IM on

Dropped the subframe to put the booster in.... barely fits!

Fuel:

I need to order a 3.5" connector, but until then a little bit of duct tape will work:

It started right up after plugging up the IAC inlet, but I'm getting a ton of noise from the right side timing cover area. It's been a while since this engine has ran. Any ideas????? Uploaded from my iphone and I have no idea how you rotate it.. this is more for audio anyway. WTF is this noise?
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Started tearing the engine back apart and found dry lifters and a broken chain guide. I'll be getting the guides on order and bleed the lifters while I'm waiting for them to get here...

Ugh... Have to drop the subframe back down and pull the booster again to get the left side valve cover off.






[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEcBnGo0Yk0[/YT]
The embed thing isn't working, so here is a link to my cheesy video:
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Here are my finding for the eveing... ugh

1 - After putting the engine at TDC, I realized that my cam timing was off a couple teeth on the exhaust side of the left head... Didn't even check the right. Those lobes are supposed to be pointing right at the exhaust port and the notch in the cam is there so you can remove the head bolts, so it's supposed to be parallel.


2 - More broken chain guides



(This was on top of the oil pan baffle)


3 - What's missing here? The oil pump chain! WTF?!?!?!


4 - The oil pump pulley was free spinning on the crank shaft. There's a key way in it, but no key or place in the crank for a key. I guess it slides into the front chain pulley keyway, but it's MIA.


5 - This is really cute. I went fishing with a magnet in the oil pan to see if I could recover the oil pump chain and found this..

...part of it anyway.

So here are my options:
A- pull it back out, remove the oil pan to retrieve whatever is in there and hope the rest of the engine is good
B - Scrap this engine and put a KA in the bitch
C - Pull it back out, break it down for inspection, hone, new rings, bearings, valve job gaskets, etc ($$$$$$$$)

I'm thinking option A for now.
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Not much progress to report right now because I was out of town last week. I did upload a picture from when I dropped the oil pan. The chain tensioner bolts loosened up and it slung the oil pump chain off. I was just kinda draped over the oil pickup. I pulled it out along with a couple chunks of timing chain guide. Luckily it did no damage to anything inside. The bearings that I pulled looked brand new and there was nothing on the oil pick up screen. I'm ordering a new timing set and oil pump chain today, so hopefully they will be in by the end of the week.

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Painted the engine bay. :/
primed up:

Painted:

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Cleaned up the garage real quick today.


New timing components came in. I'm pretty pleased with everything.


Chain retainer on front lower timing cover was broke, so I ordered a new one from a junk yard. Old one on top, new one on bottom. I'm thinking it won't fit. Hopefully they have the right one in stock. :/
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Small update from the other day...

old style bolts / new style

Yay oil pump chain!

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Got the brake lines, etc back in the engine bay and dropped the engine back in. I hope to get some time this week to put everything else back on and fire it up!

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Lower intake manifolds back on:

Stupid engine doesn't use valve cover gaskets.. Took about an hour to remove the old RTV from them:

That's on:

Both on:

Brake booster, brake lines, plugs, coils, covers and fuel installed:
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A little Sunday evening project... I had to add a small spacer to the front wheels so they would clear the Z32 calipers which left me with about 4-5 threads holding the wheels on. I figured this would be cheap insurance.


Fronts are for an Evo, rears are for a GM. 12X1.5 thread so my old RX7 lug nuts will work with them.


Used an old lug nut and a bunch of washers to pull them through the hub.


Plenty of thread holding now!


Thought this was a cool picture.
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Heater hoses re-done, upper IM on, wiring harness on.



Just have to add a few grounds, wire up the battery and starter and reconnect the ECU wiring. Then it should fire up.
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Buddy came over with his baller camera...






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Finished up the battery wiring and fulled her up with oil. Until I get an intake, I can't hook up the IACV, so it's just plugged. Open exhaust, No O2 sensors, cooling system or accessories.
Video: Can't get embed thing to work again...

I'm pretty happy right now. The engine seems to be running like it's supposed to and the timing area is quiet.
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Now that spring time is getting closer, I've found some motivation to get this thing done... I've been doing some little things lately getting it ready to move under its own power.

I mounted the power steering pump and it was interfering with the sway bar, so I made some simple spacers out of 1/4" steel.



The new clearance:


I also moved the mount for the throttle cable to accommodate the stock S13 cable. You can see that it works, but it puts the mount very close to the throttle mechanism and was actually in the way at full throttle, so I had to notch it some.



That's about all I have pics of at the moment, but I have the clutch slave cylinder mounted and bled, the driveshaft installed and a few other nick-nacky things. My exhaust components are in too! I'm trying to make it drivable for short distances this week so it can be driven in / out of the shop for exhaust fab.
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...And that brings you guys up to speed! I'll be sure to post up more regular updates as I get it finished.
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I notched the tension rod bracket for the power steering pulley and boxed it in. Then welded a plate on the bottom to box the bracket.

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