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Old 02-14-2004, 01:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Arrow Turbo project started 2-13-04

Hi guys so i started it and there is no turning back now i am the oil removal point!! which sux i dont even want to take that damn thing out if ucking blows balls b/c my engine mounts are sooo fucking hard to unbolt! then i am trying to take the bolts off of the shield for the oil pan and i cant unbold the last 2 this is nothing but problems!!! with oil pan..... anyway i read somewere that you can tap and flush the oil like 3 times without taking the oil pan out and it woks out fine??? or something like that this is really agravating.. The other things is tha i have internal waste gate right... but the mani i got has the flange like right on top of the mani!! the waste gate hits the vavle cover.... Now i know external waste gate is better anyways but my question is gonna be now can i put the waste gate somewere else besides the manifold since i already have one that was mad for internal??? could the waste gate be put on the actual DP or on say the hotpipe??? somewere b/c i realy dont want to get the mani redone! well please help thank you and yes i did do research and i found out how to remove the oil pan but that way jsut waint workin for me.
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I an starting also. what I need to know is----ka24de--- after all smog,v-lines, and other useless things are taken off/pluged, what do you do with the air line comming from block to tube going to 4 lines under injectors? also where to hookup brake v-line? Can you unbolt/take apart turbo and twist one bolt hole and make it fit?

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How is the clearence with the spark plugs, from the pics. it looks like it is really hard to get to the third pulg. can you take more pics. of the clearence between the plugs and the manifoild.
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wow, start writing your posts like you would a leter, spaced sentances with line breaks and paragraphs between topics. makes it WAY easyer to read.
one option is(like with flange on the manifold you have), cut a segment and weld it to the manifold and weld the Internal gate shut.
how bad is it hitting the VC? can you notch the vc right there?
There is no other place for the wastegate to go. How it works is by letting exaust gas escape from going into the turbo housing. So it has to go inline somewhere.
as for the spark plug, it looks as if the bolt from the turbo to the manifold is out. So you would just use a extension and a socket. and yank.
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so i have to absolutely get the mani cut again and weld a wastegate flange??? as for the spark plugs i was not too worried about them yesterday i just noticed that too..... It was dark and i was tired.... hopefully its not a problem. thnx for the replys keep em comming.....
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btw if u want to use a uni-bit to tap out the oil return line you can do it but i dont know how good your drilling skills are..BTW what size of bolts are u using to attach the turbo to the manifold andwhere did you buy ur gasket for it from?
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uni bolt huh and i dont have to remove the oil pan that way??the bolt size are 3/4 by 1.5". The Gasket i dont have yet.... but i will get one this is gonna be a long month so there is no way to put my waste gaet somewhere else bsides the inline?? b/c i really dont feel like bringing it anothershop to get rewelded those guys sux!! as you can tell my manifold came out all jacked up! my internal waste gate wont even fit without hitting the vavle cover . If i were to flip the manifold upside down would the ports still match??? i know that if i flip mani i could deff fit my waste gate. But If I can't then i guess i have to get my shit rewelded . Hey Trppen how did you get to the oil pump to tap the oil feed line or did you use a diff spot???
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not uni-bolt....uni-bit... and as for the oil use a different spot...theres a little oil sensor right next to the oil filter...remove it and "Y" it so u cna feed the oil feel line through one side and have the oil sensor feeding also.. as for the wastegate i have an internal one so I cant help u there...and if u flip the manifold I dont know eh...anyways any more questions?...hee hee hee
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hey man thnx soo much for your help.. I am sure i will have more questions, When i work on the car again. maybe later today. well i will flip the mani and see if it will match with the ports hopefully it does and i dont have to wait for like a nother month well i will post any updates thanx.
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I put a hole in my oilpan with a dremel. I got a unibit, so maybe i used that too. Did it with the pan on the car. I sprayed 2 bottles of carb cleaner in the hole to 'push' any metal particles out of the drain hole, and ran about 8 quarts of oil through the pan before starting the car. no problems whatsoever.
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hahha mann i wish i new taht b4 i removed it already and i got the turbo on there with the waste gate on there . I will take pics later to show you guys my progress thank you guys soo much for the advice
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how hard was it to remove the oil pan??? because I got a new oil pan gasket and I want to just drill a hole but since i got the gasket I might as well install it...
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I just removed my oil pan as well, but am stuck on what to use as a fitting for the oil return line. Is a 1/2 pipe thread fitting big enough for a return line? I want to get my pan back on so when the turbo arrives I am ready to go. Any help would be appreciated.
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fitting on the oil pan or fitting on the trubo??
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I need to know the size for the fitting on the oil pan. I have searched alot and found that people use alot of different style fittings but which one is better. I see that some people use a fitting that they can put a hose on with a clamp and others use a compression hose ftting. I have both types now and they are 1/2 inch. Is that big enough and which one would be better. Thanks.
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i dont know hahahha.... i am using a ebay kit!!! this is good only if you are thinking of doing bottom mount if you are doing top mound its gonna be a lil close i would not really recomend it for top though. the fittings are good i just drilled the bisotch! and then put maddd freaggin..... i forgot the name of the silicon but its strong! so that it doesn't leak but anyways im almost done guys..... i will post up all my pictures when i am i cant wait to turn her on .... hhah one other thing that kinda sux about top mount is..... well the guy i bought the manifold one had the flange welded directly on top of the mani and so making alot of problems. For example; first the waste gate would not fit b/c it was touching the VC but i fixed it just opened it mroe so now i get less boost or waever but thats ok i have a boost controller, Second the waste gate is now so high that it hits my hood soo hood scoop here i come haha i am going to repaint her anyways... Third the way the turbo is the return hose is facing the VC to argg so now i have to figure out a way to make it fit withough much probs is there such a thing as a 90degree elbow for return line??? if there is then that is gonna be my next life saver. ohhh yea and the DP..I am thinking of riping my AC out b/c the DP is not gonna have any space! it will rub on the AC hose! freagin sux but hey i will sacrafise it if it means boost! but i am getting around alot of these problems thanks to sherman and his help. well i will post any updates.
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ohh lifting the engine was easy just unbolt two motor mounts left right. Then put a peice of wood under the tranny and jack that baby up stragith out of the mounts!! u will be ok.... from there I unbolted the Tube that sucks the oil in the one that has that lil filter in the end then your done!
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Fitting size? Help ...please.
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10 an anodized blue for use with steel braided hose for the return line.

45deg. at the pan that is being welded as we speak for a more secure precaution i
dont know just me.. and besides its only 10 bux
90deg. at the oil return flange reason being is that my turbo is soo close to the VC
that i need it to angle right there and then 90! still will drain easy.

I will start to put stuff back together today, and hopefully start the car. all i have left to do is, put the oil pan back on, attach the oil return line, install turbo on manifold and hook up my hoses along with my intercooler piping but i have it all maped out what do you guys think 4-5hours?? hopefully
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mondoz: How is the clearence with the spark plugs
Thanks for pointing that out man well wha i am doing now is im getting some
custom wires and keeping them long and going to run them above the Turbo
so that they dont touch the turbo or mani. Thanks again.
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So im just about done got my oil pan back aslaped it back on the car and bolted the turbo turbo mani the oil lines and intercooler and the piping. I just have a Q about the hoses. Where does the waste gatehose, the turbo housing hose,and the BOVhose go to??? i hooked up the boost gauge hose to the one of the FPR hoses well hopefully that i the fpr hhaha the thing that has 2 hoses coming out of it on the top and one from the bottom that is looks like its bolted to the intake mani close to the top of the fuel rail. thanks guys hope to finish and start it up today
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Wastegate hose..not sure...how aobut a boost controller?? got one?? turbo housing hose??? should attach to the internal wastegate if it has one i believe..as for the boost gauge I think u can T off the Brake Booster Line and use one side for Bosot gauge and brake booster... for the BOV find the hose before the BUTTERFLY plate in the TB and use that.. make sure u put the valve cover hose thing for the blowby before the turbo after the sensor so you dont corrode the sensor.."unless u have an oil catch can" got pics man?? show us!!! how did u make ur downpipe!!?
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ok this is gonna be the one of the other bad parts about this install these damn hoses are confusing the fuckouta me! as for a DP i will have pics when i get it made i am bringing my car to "east hartford performance center" and the guy there is going to make me one for a resonable price so i have to drive my car open exhuast for like 5miles no biggy. i am still having some second thoughts though the way i moved my wastegate is fine now. but.. the linkage part of it the one that is hooked up to the exhuast flange where the waste gate is attached too is touching the VC if that lil flap canot move what does that mean??? in other words what does the flap do? that i should worry about.??
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where are you getting custom wires from.
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at the same shop they are those make em your self typ of shits tha you cut ima jsut make em long enought o go above the VC so that they dont touch the mani and melt. but i dont knwo if i should even start the car yet b/c of the waste gate shit but i will look more into that and i do have a B/c its manual home made works awsome on my friends SR motor no spikes!
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