I remember there was a thread about something like this back in the day, but I don't get how there are some pro drivers in thier 20s. I'm currently saving up to make a rally car, but i'm just curious. How do you get into the pros? I'm sure it involves winning a lot of SCCA autocrosses and stuff. But after winning a bunch of times, then what happens? And how does someone that young get to drive formula 1 cars, GT cars, etc, etc.. and get sponsored? I mean there's no college degree in racing, so how'd you go about getting started in a racing carrer?
I think its like football...you start in pop warner..then you play high school ball..then the college scouters come and watch you if you stand out...they scout you to play in their college...and if your good enogh...the pros will scout you...but you already said that...haha
still though, how can you start young if you have no money? I can barely afford rent, tuition, bills, and food. Then ontop of that have to pay for driving schools and such with SCCA n' jazz. I'll have to look into what kind of career path the SCCA has, thanks Stan
still though, how can you start young if you have no money? I can barely afford rent, tuition, bills, and food. Then ontop of that have to pay for driving schools and such with SCCA n' jazz. I'll have to look into what kind of career path the SCCA has, thanks Stan
I don't want to be blunt but I want to tell you the truth. It is not cheap. It is not something that many people do for primary income.
It is the plane ugly truth.
If you were to start young you would need money. Most guys that race do because they have disposable income. I have some disposable income and I also work like a dog for what I have. (4 months 7 days a week 12 hour days 7pm to 7am with drift events and practices)
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true, I noticed on the SCCA page you'll need to rent out race cars varying from 500 to 2000 a day!
I just saw on espn the other day this one girl who's like 20 or 21 and she drives F1 cars! I guess she must come from a rich family or something
If you were to start young you would need money. Most guys that race do because they have disposable income. I have some disposable income and I also work like a dog for what I have. (4 months 7 days a week 12 hour days 7pm to 7am with drift events and practices)
That's it...work hard....drive smart...pay your dues....or post on messageboards.
I just saw on espn the other day this one girl who's like 20 or 21 and she drives F1 cars!
no you didnt, there are no girls in f1. i think i know who you are talking about, and she drives in cart.
most people come from wealthy backgrounds that become pros. I know plenty of open wheel car racers started in shifter carts. I wish i had enough money to do that now, but i figure ill just work on my car for awhile to get it fast, then ill just be a road course racer when i get like 30 or so and have a good income. hopefully
no you didnt, there are no girls in f1. i think i know who you are talking about, and she drives in cart.
most people come from wealthy backgrounds that become pros. I know plenty of open wheel car racers started in shifter carts. I wish i had enough money to do that now, but i figure ill just work on my car for awhile to get it fast, then ill just be a road course racer when i get like 30 or so and have a good income. hopefully
What is stopping you?
Sell the 240 and all the mods. Get a shifterkart and a POS 4 cylinder pickup with a cap. Get your ass to the track.
Done.
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Yup, most racers are already rich, and that's how they can get into the sport - you have to be if you want to make a profession out of it. It takes a lot of money to finally see a return on the investment, then you still need to have the skill.
For the most part motorsports are expensive. Unless you happen to tap a part of motorsports that hasn't been yet, unlikely. Or you are damn good at what you do, and are great with selling yourself. A fair amount of ppl that have sponsers approach companies with their record and what they could bring to the company by getting sponsered by them.
Sell the 240 and all the mods. Get a shifterkart and a POS 4 cylinder pickup with a cap. Get your ass to the track.
Done.
I dont want to open wheel race. Well, i want to, but i know whats realistic. I was just meaning that id make the 240 a race car when i get older. Atleast i hope to.
“The Search for the Ultimate Driver” Formula BMW USA Debuts In 2004
Woodcliff Lake, NJ, September 27, 2003…
The internationalization of Formula BMW has reached the United States. With this unique racing series for young drivers, which already is established in Germany, Asia and recently announced in the UK, the United States will host its own Formula BMW USA series for 2004.
"Formula BMW USA will provide the young entry-level racer, particularly from the kart racing ranks, the opportunity to experience all the demands of professional motorsport," said Tom Purves, CEO of BMW of North America, LLC. "This is an exciting way to develop promising drivers by showcasing their talents and preparing them to compete in the higher ranks of international motorsports. We would be thrilled if the next American Formula One driver comes from Formula BMW USA."
Talented drivers between the age of 16 and 23 will line up on the starting grid. They will learn the details of their sport with the most innovative Formula racing car in its class. Each of the candidates will be eligible for scholarship support from BMW of North America.
As part of the total Formula BMW USA program, drivers will participate in the Motorsport Professional training program. This program will provide young drivers with skills that they will need long term in the world of motorsports. BMW will organize several seminars conducted by experienced individuals to review important subjects such as:
• Fitness Training & Nutrition
• Vehicle Dynamics & Chassis Set-up
• Driving Technique
• Public Relations
• Media Training
• Sponsorship Research & Sports Management
“Formula BMW is firmly established overseas as the best entry-level form of motor racing for promising young karters looking for a stepping stone to single-seaters on their way to Formula One,” says BMW Motorsport Director Mario Theissen. “With the BMW WilliamsF1 Team leading the FIA World Championship and with a strong desire to promote open-wheel racing in the U.S., we believe this to be the perfect time for us to introduce Formula BMW to America. For us safety is of paramount importance. We believe the Formula BMW car is the safest entry-level open-wheel racecar on the market.”
The top finishing driver for the season in Formula BMW USA can go on to race in Europe, where the majority of world-class open wheel racing takes place. The season winner will earn a $50,000 scholarship that can be applied to a year of participation in Formula BMW in Germany.
BMW was engaged in promoting new talent in BMW-powered open-wheel racecars as early as 1991. With the development of the new Formula BMW racecar, the Formula BMW ADAC Championship was launched in Germany in 2002. This year, Formula BMW races are being held in Asia for the first time. To enhance an international platform with the goal of a world championship, Formula BMW UK and Formula BMW USA will now become the third and fourth pillars of BMW’s commitment to nurturing young drivers towards an open-wheel racing career.
Formula BMW sets new benchmarks especially in safety standards. This state-of-the-art single-seat racecar is powered by a 140-hp BMW engine. Inspired by the BMW Formula 1 shape, DesignworksUSA sketched and modeled the Formula BMW car, which has a high-tech carbon-fiber chassis, meets the FIA safety requirements of the more powerful Formula 3 racing cars, and has been expanded to incorporate a Formula 1 standard with in-house development of the BMW Formula Rescue Seat (FORS). For additional safety measures, all drivers will be able to wear their HANS device (Head and Neck Support system).
“Who but BMW would search for the ultimate driver? We’re excited by the challenge of launching this new motorsport program in the United States. While the management of a racing series is new to us, motorsports has always been an integral part of the BMW brand,” said Tom Salkowsky, Manager, Consumer Events for BMW of North America. “The Formula BMW racecar has many of the same attributes as our production cars—high performance, advanced technology, safety and agility.”
BMW of North America is currently in negotiations with Championship Auto Racing Teams (CART) to potentially host select races in conjunction with the sanctioning body in 2004. An entire schedule of races in the U.S. and Canada will be announced later this year and may include the 2004 United States Grand Prix. The schedule will include a total of 14 races—two races will be run on each weekend at seven racetracks in North America. The majority of the race schedule will cover the summer-break period, between June and September, allowing young drivers to finish the school year.
Formula BMW has already launched numerous pilots onto the professional circuit. In particular, BMW WilliamsF1 Team driver Ralf Schumacher, who made his debut in the forerunner to this series in 1992 and whose career has taken him to success in the Formula 1 Championship.
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Hope to see you fuckers their, where I will eat your children, and skull fuck your grandma's, and hopefully get the oppertunity to be the new junior driver for bmw open wheel cart racing
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heh allot of pressure to perform not to mention the amount of money involved in a season of racing around 20k for a superpro season travel and parts included. thats some serious cash if you dont have a sponsor. just go do it. nigel mansel had a double morgage on his house for his first time in a f1 car and he is a world champion now. basicly no one is just going to ever see you no matter how good you are. you need to make them see you always be in the highest mannor on and off track be presentable and have somthing to offer the sponser. I have sold karts at the track based on being a great guy not by winning the race.That is ultimatly what every sponser wants increased sales=more money. first you need a race car though.so stop reading this and go get one. one more thing there is nothing more important than seat time.remember that if your not practicing there is always someone that is and one day when you meet he will beat you.
It's not really general automotive though. It does belong in the racing forum, but I think I'll leave it here because it is a very good thread with some very good answers and would die in the racing forum (more than likely).
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