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Dolby109

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This is a test writeup on how to put together a relatively cheap FMIC setup. LMK what you guys think, and give some feedback on how I can improve it.

Well I finally got around to buying an FMIC and installing it.

I decided to go the EBAY route. After a lot of searching I decided that SSAutoChrome had the best deal, and I got the entire FMIC kit with all piping for $270 shipped. After it arrived I was impressed with the quality. The welds were good, and there were no shavings anywhere.
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First problem (I already knew about this) was it had no BOV or flange for one, and also does not have a vacuum outlet for the wastegate. So I ordered a steel flange for $20 shipped off ebay, and a cheap Greddy Type-S knockoff BOV for $30. I got the S so that I could recirculate it if I wanted (and I ended up having to because the BOV leak's, and if you tighten it too much there isn't enough room for the BOV to open much.

So I got the flange and welded it on the hot pipe in a position right in front of the recirculation tube like this...
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The flange had to have a circular hole cut in it to fit the pipe. Luckily for me I am friends with a custom fabrication shop and helped them move a bunch of equipment. So the cutting and welding was free for me. I also had a steel line welded on the hot pipe so I could run a vacuum line to the wastegate. This was hard to find so we used brake line...which is not good because it lets off a harmful gas. So if you use this hold your breath while welding.
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Some other problems with the kit were the main mounting bracket was totally bent wrong. It should be almost straight up, at nearly a 90 degree angle, yet it was bent too far forward. To bend this back I simply heated it with a hair dryer for a few minutes and then used vice grips to bend it, and that worked great. More heat may have made it easier but I didn't have a torch.
Also one of the connecting hoses was far too short. Luckily I had an extra 8" long 2.5" diameter connector lying around!
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Here was the initial fitment.
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Now for the cutting fun!
First cut a hole in the battery tray for the FMIC to fit through. (this is assuming you have already relocated the battery or bought a slim battery to sit beside the pipe) I made my hole bigger than it needed to be, but oh well...weight reduction.
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Next cut your bumper support to fit the FMIC. This was already done for me so I cant go into too much detail, but you can fallow the picture for a good layout.
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If you want to run the bumper support (which I suggest since its only about 5lbs, and often insurance wont cover you without it) you will need to cut it out. You need to cut the bottom out the whole length of the intercooler, and I had to cut some slots out of the top so they wouldn't rub the intercooler.
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Here was the final fitting.
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I had some metal band lying around (from Home Depot) so I used it to help secure the intercooler. I drilled some of the holes in the top plate larger to fit a bolt and nut through them, and then bolted them to the threaded holes in top of the intercooler (M6*1.0). I mounted it as high as it would go, and used some vacuum lines as a bushing so the radiator supports wouldn't rub the intercooler. Another thing was the one mounting bolt that came with the kit was not long enough. So you will need to get a longer version of the same bolt (M8*1.25) with more washers to extend it. After this the intercooler fit quite well. I also put some zip ties through the bottom mounting brackets (not sure how to use them otherwise) and zipped them up to the lower radiator support section.
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Here was the final fitment with the bumper support on.
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Now I had the BOV flange specifically welded where it is so it would be easy to recirculate the BOV. However it ended up causing the intake tube to sit at a weird angle (however this worked out to my advantage because of my hood scoop). For others who want to do this I would recommend mounting the BOV further back, so that you you can allow for more flexing of the recirculation tube. Otherwise you will likely have to find some sort of S-bend tube in order to make it fit well.

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Notice now the air filter sits right up in the hood scoop. Great for me...but most people will want the filter to sit lower.
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And here is the final product with the front bumper on. Beautiful! (except my stupid chipping paint) At least it looks 10X better than before.
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So thats it, a functional and seemingly efficient intercooler setup for about $330. I got free welding so if you had to pay for that it might run up to about $400, but a recent look on ebay I found the same kit even cheaper!
Time to crank up the boost!
 
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holy shit fitment looks like an absolute disgrace..... Regardless of the price or not that fitment looks attrocious (sp?). This is much more of a write up on whats wrong with the SSAC than a DIY FMIC...
What are you talking about?? There were only really two things wrong with it aside from the fact that it didn't have a BOV flange.

The only modifications needed to make it work (at least the way it was advertised) was bend the top bracket, get a longer bolt, and get a longer connecting hose.
You always have to cut the battery tray, and bumper support with any FMIC. This kit is basically a replica of the Greddy I believe exept it includes the hot pipe which most kits don't. In fact Greddy was the one who had the fucked up design of putting the IACV tube on the wrong side of the pipe, and SSAC just copied them.
 
holy shit fitment looks like an absolute disgrace..... Regardless of the price or not that fitment looks attrocious (sp?). This is much more of a write up on whats wrong with the SSAC than a DIY FMIC...
hey man, don't put him down like that, many people buy from them, i mean this is a great write up for people who buy from them, wether their quality is good or bad, it's still a great write up, he took his time with detailed pictures to help out others, you out of all people (since you've been here forever) should know this, if you don't like it, it's fine, sorry for the rant...

nice write up!

edit, nm u haven't been here for so long, ur just a post whore...
 
What are you talking about?? There were only really two things wrong with it aside from the fact that it didn't have a BOV flange.

The only modifications needed to make it work (at least the way it was advertised) was bend the top bracket, get a longer bolt, and get a longer connecting hose.
You always have to cut the battery tray, and bumper support with any FMIC. This kit is basically a replica of the Greddy I believe exept it includes the hot pipe which most kits don't. In fact Greddy was the one who had the fucked up design of putting the IACV tube on the wrong side of the pipe, and SSAC just copied them.

I made no comment about the battery tray or bumper support (btw your comment about insurance is incorrect. From the insurances I've talked to the following don't care that the 5 mph support is cut: State Farm, MetAuto, Geico, Progressive, and Allstate). As far as being a replica this is hardly the case, I have installed my fair share of Greddy VSPL FMIC's and other than cutting the battery tray and impact bumper there were absolutely no problems. The lower half of the piping by SSAC is low quality crap. Debate it if you want. Don't get offended, I didn't say anything about the work you did or your write up (except i clarified by no means is this a DIY.... write up on how to make something fit that was supposed to already fit).


hey man, don't put him down like that, many people buy from them, i mean this is a great write up for people who buy from them, wether their quality is good or bad, it's still a great write up, he took his time with detailed pictures to help out others, you out of all people (since you've been here forever) should know this, if you don't like it, it's fine, sorry for the rant...

Lmao, did I ever once put him down? Jesus Christ people are illiterate and post out of ignorance. I said the kit was an absolute disgrace. I said fitment looked horrible regardless of how "good" the price was. Did I say one fucking negative thing about the god damn write up? N-O! I can only assume hooked on phonics failed you at some point in your early years.

nice write up!

edit, nm u haven't been here for so long, ur just a post whore...
Cute, when you lose any decent shred of a valid and sound argument you resort to ad hominems. Call me a post whore or not I have contributed far more to the tech and non whoring sections of these forums than you ever will. I really don't give a shit if you don't appreciate it because the only reason you seem to be a member here is to take from others without contributing to the community? Is that it? In the 2 years I have been here I have not only learned a great deal from many of the others on here (that by your standards would be post whores as well due to their post count above 500 :rotflmao) but I have given my own advice, ideas and brainstorming time in helping others troubleshoot their problems.

If you don't like it, then the tech section isn't the place to complain about how many posts someone has.
 
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The lower half of the piping by SSAC is low quality crap. Debate it if you want.
Sure.
The fab shop I went to was surprisingly impressed with the welds. The only thing they didn't like was how sharp the 90 degree bend is on the cold side of the intercooler.

I just don't understand how you can call this horrible fitment, when there was actually only two minor issues.
To me that would qualify as imperfect or not so good fitment, but not horrible.

To me it seems your just trying to justify spending double the price on an intercooler setup that actually comes with less piping.
 
By no means am I comparing the VSPL to the SSAC. First off I guarentee you the actual core of the Greddy IC is going to be hell of a lot higher quality than that of what you have. However this does not mean that I would ever consider purchasing one. Hybrid Development kits are absolutely flawless IMO and a much better deal for what you get. I'm just saying for a kit that was specifically created for the S13 the fitment is still horrible and requires you to buy extra length couplers and I don't consider that kind of kit to be quality.
 
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Well I am not trying to claim the quality is as good, but for the cost I think its still a great deal.

If I had other intercoolers I would love to do a test on them to see if there is really much difference in efficiency.
The test would be simple really.
 
Yea you guys have to get used to MrBojangles the way he talks. In no way was he insulting the writer but just greatly disagreed on the quality I suppose. Also what hes saying is for a few hundred bucks more you can get a well quality piece that require less of a headache. But yea relax guys. Hes a good kid. :)


As for the write, AWESOME WORK. This is probably one of the best DIY step by step write ups that I've read. Good to know about their minor problems and welding is actually good. Nice write up.
 
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