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i forgot about the edis. i thought they only had it on their 4 cyl. engines but then again im not familiar with ford. thanks matt. wonder where the cheapest place to get it would be. i wouldnt think there would be a lot of them in the junkyards, what cars did they put them in?
The external EDIS ignition shows up on '95 and earlier Crown Vics and certain Lincolns with the 4.6. As others have noted, two EDIS-4 modules can work too.

speaking of ITB's, the only thing holding us back from designing them is a good straight answer on properly running the variable timing. any insight on this Matt? i've seen mazda guys run it no problem. I understand you can switch it on and off with a simple on/off switch with voltage that will turn it on whenever desired. although I'd much prefer a system that uses it the way it is intended stock, possibly using TPS signal? If you can lay out a good plan of attack regarding megasquirt and the VH45DE we'll gladly be the test dummy and namedrop you guys anytime we pop the hood.
Right now it is possible to use an on/off switch for variable valve timing, but dealing with continuously variable valve timing is a big can of worms. The typical OEM setups use a closed loop feedback system to see how far the cam has advanced. Right now the code for such a thing just isn't there in Megasquirt.

The MSnS-E firmware does, however, have a code in there that is capable of sending out a PWM signal based on TPS and RPM. That would be the boost control code. You could try installing the boost control mods and setting up the boost duty target table to control the PWM output. It's kind of a hack job and I can't promise it will work right, but if you don't need the boost output and are willing to do some experimentation it may work a bit better than on/off setups.
 
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so, correct me if I'm wrong... the boost control mods are used to give your motor variable boost setting that are dependent on RPM and TPS signals. so you can cruise around town on stock boost but when you kick the throttle it will jump up to a higher level, thus removing any hassle of manually changing it and the boost level being static. so with that system(if it works that way) we could set a map to send a signal to engage the VTC at say fullthrottle while at 4000rpm and above?

oh... and I just found a rediculous deal on a Z32TT Transmission!
 
weird.. I was in class with a guy today and a guy in the ccvt is doing a q swap into his 240 as well...

unless YOU are that guy lol.

just keep updating
 
so, correct me if I'm wrong... the boost control mods are used to give your motor variable boost setting that are dependent on RPM and TPS signals. so you can cruise around town on stock boost but when you kick the throttle it will jump up to a higher level, thus removing any hassle of manually changing it and the boost level being static. so with that system(if it works that way) we could set a map to send a signal to engage the VTC at say fullthrottle while at 4000rpm and above?

oh... and I just found a rediculous deal on a Z32TT Transmission!

I believe thats what the MAN SAID :thumbsup Im doing something similar but its a on/off type deal for my secondary butterflies. However I can set it up varying tps, rpm etc etc. but Im just gonna do it via rpm.
 
if you go with a z32 trans, the z32 flywheel is a bolt on, you would just need a throwout bearing spacer to compensate for the transmission adapter. I belive you would also need to use the Z32 starter.
 
if you go with a z32 trans, the z32 flywheel is a bolt on, you would just need a throwout bearing spacer to compensate for the transmission adapter. I belive you would also need to use the Z32 starter.
er...when you get the adapter plate, you have to machine the bellhousing. no spacers should be needed..
 
if i were you i would scrounge up a q45 efi harness and ecu...MS is inferior to the stock eccs.
 
why not convert the eccs to map?
use a 1bar map sensor and scale the maf curve to suit...would work well.
 
ehh..true but that setup wouldnt be as reliable as something more simple like megasquirt just for the fact you would have just another thing to worry about wiring up, meaning another thing that could fry, and take power. and those converters arent cheap.
 
no offence but you really havent looked into this have you?
a map sensor only costs 15$ for a _good_ sensor, then if you cant wire in a power, ground and signal to the existing maf wires then perhaps its not a good idea...
will it work first time out? yes.
will it need fine tuning? yes.
is it cheap, um yes.
but thats my opinion...not like it matters.
 
no offence but you really havent looked into this have you?
a map sensor only costs 15$ for a _good_ sensor, then if you cant wire in a power, ground and signal to the existing maf wires then perhaps its not a good idea...
will it work first time out? yes.
will it need fine tuning? yes.
is it cheap, um yes.
but thats my opinion...not like it matters.
ok yeah, you make a point. and i have looked into it, just not much because megasquirt seems like the best for what we want. so on that note, whats your beef with megasquirt. you say its inferior but why
 
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I've looked into it... and I agree with carl that if we could tune the stock ecu to handle a MAP signal that'd be the simplest bet. but the problem is you cant just throw in a MAP sensor and adjust the fuel map, I believe you need a signal convertor to make it work(like www.mapecu.com). atleast thats what I've gathered. and with the average $400-700 pricetag we might as well go megasqiurt for cheaper and get it done. but it looks like we'll be sticking with the MAF for a wee-bit. I've been sidetracked with rollcages, fixing a buggered up SR swap(how can you screw up something so simple?), demolition of a 89 hatch, and the pre-build process of my brother 92vert... oh and designing an oven for tylers powdercoating, which will be the main supply of capitol for this project..
 
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haha, nope. Here's the tentative schedule for happenings at the garage.

Friday: Get buddies car out of the garage.
Saturday to Saturday: Being a beach bum in North Carolina
Last week of July: Concreting/Leveling open bay. Start to tear down the VH.
July: Build oven so we can powdercoat and supply this project with funds.

we're in the middle of so many projects right now, and trying to get a business going. But dont worry, this thing will run. I'll have more pictures later this month.
 
dont forget august: round of roll cages.. that poor vh is just collecting dust right now.

so your putting itbs on mikes car right? are you using gixxer tbs or what? i think that would be sweet. we can put 2 sets on the vh:dancingna
 
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