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Discussion starter · #101 · (Edited)
Shaggy's 240 said:
:superbarf i dont see how you can do that to that sexy vert with that sexy motor =\ DONT DO IT DAMNIT!!
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You do realize this car is going to be an extremely clean daily driver with alot of kick right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYkFuMPJgxk the wheels look similar to the gold vert's, but we'll be sitting higher and with less camber. to each his own, I think they'll look great, go throw the puke smiley at guys buying sportmax's :happyfing mikes SSR's are baller, just like his build.

Shaggy's 240 said:
Well anyways to answer the question about why changing from a girdle to main caps gives you a lil performance but less reliability is that with the girdle your putting a lot more pressure on the crank and it will not spin as freely as it would under the same torque settings as it would with the caps. But because a girdle covers the whole bottom of the block it is much stronger and a whole lot less chance for something to break. Helps keep the crank from walking as much too under high rpm. Stick with the girdle for sure with turbo setup, better to be on the safe side.
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actually you're wrong. with proper journal and bearing sizes the crank will see the same friction resistance from the caps or the girdle, you just have to know what you're doing. you can even do a "loose build" to make it smoother in higher revs. the performance comes from windage losses due to the girdle... read up on it. and yes, the main girdle helps reduce NVH, which I already stated.

Shaggy's 240 said:
Cars comin along sick like but those wheels are killin it for me but to each his own i guess, me personally id rather roll on the stock se 5 lugs than those lol. I envy you guys though i wish so cal had a community like you guys got out there no one out here helps people do shit... kinda depressing actually. I always wanted a vert too but was too pussy to say it cause i knew my friends would bag on me for it lol. I like em though... mmm ka-t vert with no silvia front end... tits man tits.:thumbsup
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thanks for the compliments
 
Discussion starter · #102 ·
cervasa said:
are you guys making your own header???
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yes sir, making the whole exhaust system. 4-2-1 stainless header - vband - cat - vband - piping - resonator - piping - muffler - piping - tips.... mmmmm

I'll be redirecting the system so we only have one bend at the subframe :thumbsup
 
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Tifosi said:
Im so sick of that word. Why cant people go back to using words like "nice" , or "cool"?

And i dont get the whole thing with having wheels on your car that cost more then the car itself , but it looks nice on your vert.
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wheels werent that expensive. :smacked49
 
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hrmmmm they deff look waaaaaay better on the car than just sitting there i might change my mind when i see em on the car when its done. Hrmm i suppose i could be wrong but thats not really what i was taught and i used to build motors for ford racings midget car program. The friction coefficients that you see with the girdle are slightly higher because there is more mass pushing the crank into the block side under the same torque settings as the caps. That is why you can run girdles looser than you can caps. Just what i was taught but i suppose it could be wrong its such a small detail i dont want to get into a thread jacking argument about it.

Either way the cars gonna turn out nice, the only thing iffy for me is the wheels and they're kinda growin on me, i dont think they could work on anything but a vert. Teh first thing that came to mind when i saw those wheels was a coupe around the corner from me that has some deep dish benzo wheels on it. Looks like shit on that car but with the top down on a vert.. well the jurys still out for me.
 
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Tifosi said:
Im so sick of that word. Why cant people go back to using words like "nice" , or "cool"?
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because the words nice and cool are used by *******

And i dont get the whole thing with having wheels on your car that cost more then the car itself
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Seeing that an s13 literally cost change its hard not to get wheels that cost more than the car. And dont hate cause you're poor
 
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Shaggy's 240 said:
hrmmmm they deff look waaaaaay better on the car than just sitting there i might change my mind when i see em on the car when its done.
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You'll like it once they're on :thumbsup and they look good on coupes and hatches too...i've even seen that style wheel on an s14 and it looked pretty baller or should I say "NICE"

240fly said:
Seeing that an s13 literally cost change its hard not to get wheels that cost more than the car. And dont hate cause you're poor
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:rotflmao
 
Discussion starter · #117 ·
Shaggy's 240 said:
hrmmmm they deff look waaaaaay better on the car than just sitting there i might change my mind when i see em on the car when its done. Hrmm i suppose i could be wrong but thats not really what i was taught and i used to build motors for ford racings midget car program. The friction coefficients that you see with the girdle are slightly higher because there is more mass pushing the crank into the block side under the same torque settings as the caps. That is why you can run girdles looser than you can caps. Just what i was taught but i suppose it could be wrong its such a small detail i dont want to get into a thread jacking argument about it.
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wha? all depends on clearances...
 
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i spose not gonna get into it right now, the way it was explained to me was very confusing and i could be wrong and i dont want to get off topic on that right now. I need to go ask my old boss about it again so i can try and understand what he told me the last time i asked before i want to talk about it. I dont want to make myself look like a douche lol
 
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Discussion starter · #119 · (Edited)
Shaggy's 240 said:
i spose not gonna get into it right now, the way it was explained to me was very confusing and i could be wrong and i dont want to get off topic on that right now. I need to go ask my old boss about it again so i can try and understand what he told me the last time i asked before i want to talk about it. I dont want to make myself look like a douche lol
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alright now that I have time let me explain further... the crank girdle was torqued to the block and the "line-bored" to make sure everything lined up right and was a perfect circle while torqued down. the same thing would be done if we were using just the caps. so regardless of what support we used the crank would be spinning in the same clearances either way. the only difference is the crank caps obviously arent as rigid as the girdle, and can't protect the motor from harmful NVH as good as the girdle can...

btw, found throttle plates the same size as the KA's runners for the ITB's :thumbsup pictures as soon as I find the memory card.

EDIT: PICTURE!!!!!
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