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Guys, drop the RB vs. 2Jz arguement. No one is going to win b/c everyone has a DIFFERENT OPINION (fact or not). Back to the point of this thread: BULL SHIT!!! There, I said what everyone has thought.
Oh, and the Supra engine bay on pg.2....NICE!!! That'd be the second time I've had to change my pants tonite. The other was watching that old Stang take off like a jet.
 
14.5 drift said:
Hold up, is it just me or is it sad that the fastest supra is .2 seconds slower than the fastest dsm?
It is sad that the fastest Supra is .2 seconds slower than the fastest DSM.

esco said:
Personally I don't bag on supras, i love supras but it's not an affordable car to modify by any means.
I agree with what you say. Spending money on a Supra to mod it is like having a wheel cart full of money, and you are shoveling it into your fireplace. The samething goes for NSX's, and Skyline's. I honestly don't see the point in wanting either of those three cars, besides the fact that they can go fast.

BLAHHH...I am feel like all of that is just an incoherent ramble...:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
PrincipleOfEvil said:
I honestly don't see the point in wanting either of those three cars, besides the fact that they can go fast.
Isn't that the whole point of getting these cars.......The Skyline, Supra, and RX7 are the super cars, if some one will run the fastest speed, highest HP level, quickest times,etc...for the import community.....It's going to be one of these three. If you just want a quick street car then your right, you can also go with other cars.
 
DETurbine said:
Isn't that the whole point of getting these cars.......The Skyline, Supra, and RX7 are the super cars, if some one will run the fastest speed, highest HP level, quickest times,etc...for the import community.....It's going to be one of these three. If you just want a quick street car then your right, you can also go with other cars.
What about Silvia's? Are they not considered super cars as well? Because there are Silvia's out there that put out monstrous hp right? :12dunno
 
DETurbine said:
Isn't that the whole point of getting these cars.......The Skyline, Supra, and RX7 are the super cars, if some one will run the fastest speed, highest HP level, quickest times,etc...for the import community.....It's going to be one of these three. If you just want a quick street car then your right, you can also go with other cars.
a supercar wouldn't be considered any of those imo. A car that goes beyond a typical sports car and will give you of the upmost in build quality and materials with a balanced driving experience. A stock viper for example can go fast as hell in a straight line but it's not balanced in performance like an f355 which may not go faster in a straight line but will do just about every other category very well and better than a viper.

The term Supercar congours up thougths of hand crafted, mr configured and exotic materials used for production. Ferrari,lamborghini,mclarenF1 and even the NSX which is japan's only supercar. America's only supercar is the SaleenS7. So outside of europe those are the 2 only supercars I can think of so far. Concepts don't count.

The term supercar doesn't mean that every car labled as one is faster than anything thats not in it's class. It's a classification/designation of vehicle type. Also the term is used when comparing stock for stock, it's often pointless to compare a heavily modified sports car to a stock supercar. For example a silly comparison between a heavily modified supra vs a stock ferrari because supercars are never going to give you the most bang for your buck performance because of the cost,materials and way their manufactured.

GTR's are derived from the skyline platform which is shared amongst a variety of cars from 4dr sedans to wagons, supercars are developed from the ground up. If you compare a gtr to the nsx without even touching on the performance aspect of the cars thier's already differences in them that set them apart. Also supercars will usually have the best capabilities. An FR car can take you pretty far but it has it's limitations and the supercar companies found this out a long ass time ago. You can go really far with a supercar thats already designed for racing right out the box because your already that much further ahead than a car that wasn't designed as one.

I just wanted to inform people why some cars aren't labled as supercars even though a few come very close or at times can exceed the performance of one. :supercool
 
the Supra isn't really a supercar, it's actually classified as a gt car

as for there potential they can be mind numbingly fast, they put down huge numbers just look at the Venom Supra, and the Titan motorspots supra, they put down very high hp numbers, the only thing that really holds the supra back is it's weight, that thing is very heavy

side note: why don't ma70 (mk III supras) get recognized as really great cars?
 
PrincipleOfEvil said:
I know that they cannot push THAT much hp, but some are brought around 600 and are driven on the street right? :12dunno Maybe even more than 600? :12dunno
600 hp is nothing for a supra

check out

www.supraforums.com many people are running 600 hp

1000hp is serious

just look at some of there thread titles

ie.

Let's talk 700+rwhp clutches...
Highest whp w/T78 on stock fuel?
Ok. Finally going single! T88H. All the photos!!
 
there could be no possible way to get 1600 hp out of the 2JZ engine. Dont get me wrong, the 2JZ is one hella potent engine, but the most HP I have ever seen listed for one was 1306 and that was on the cover of Super Street or SCC. I forget. If you can get ahold of a dyno sheet, that will be conclusive to if your friend is lying or not
 
yashin said:
600 hp is nothing for a supra

check out

www.supraforums.com many people are running 600 hp

1000hp is serious

just look at some of there thread titles

ie.

Let's talk 700+rwhp clutches...
Highest whp w/T78 on stock fuel?
Ok. Finally going single! T88H. All the photos!!
I am not talking about the Supra, I am talking about the Silvia.
I honestly can care less about the Supra. I like it and all, don't get me wrong about that. It is just that I wouldn't want to spend that much on a car. When I know that I can get more bang for my buck from many other cars.
 
Soda said:
there could be no possible way to get 1600 hp out of the 2JZ engine. Dont get me wrong, the 2JZ is one hella potent engine, but the most HP I have ever seen listed for one was 1306 and that was on the cover of Super Street or SCC. I forget. If you can get ahold of a dyno sheet, that will be conclusive to if your friend is lying or not
I wouldn't say impossible. Look at import drag racing scene, take a look at Pro driver George Ioannou who's in the 6's :eek4: This would have been thought of as impossible not too long ago.
 
esco said:
I wouldn't say impossible. Look at import drag racing scene, take a look at Pro driver George Ioannou who's in the 6's :eek4: This would have been thought of as impossible not too long ago.
6's OUT OF A TT'd I6 MOTOR? :eek4: :eek4: :eek4:

It is absolutely outrageous... :eek4: :eek4: :eek4:
 
Nothing in the automotive world is impossible, thats been proven time and time again. When you go for above 1000hp it's a money game. The pics I posted a few pages back of my friends supra, he's going for 1200whp off the spray, and wants over 1300 on the bottle. But thats also a stroker motor.
 
PrincipleOfEvil said:
6's OUT OF A TT'd I6 MOTOR? :eek4: :eek4: :eek4:

It is absolutely outrageous... :eek4: :eek4: :eek4:
um yeah thier using the 2jz. The team refuses to use a larger displacement engine, not even a v6. Because they want to showoff quote unquote "what we can do with tehcnology and blah blah blah" :eek4: But yeah 6's, take at look at the official nhra rosters :eek4:

Nismo is right, money would be the only thing to hold you back. Ibarra is another serious contender with sponsor mazda and thier new renesis rotary technology, they've broken into the 6's as well.
 
esco said:
um yeah thier using the 2jz. The team refuses to use a larger displacement engine, not even a v6. Because they want to showoff quote unquote "what we can do with tehcnology and blah blah blah" :eek4: But yeah 6's, take at look at the official nhra rosters :eek4:

Nismo is right, money would be the only thing to hold you back. Ibarra is another serious contender with sponsor mazda and thier new renesis rotary technology, they've broken into the 6's as well.
That's some crazy shiznit...:eek4:
 
I think some really insane shiznet is what they've been doing with evo's for years now. I'm not talking silly shiot but i'm talking about well over 700+hp STREET LEGAL evo's that can run on PUMP GAS. In fact if anyone has seen the norris designs evo(2.2L@800+hp! street legal car!) on scc. And yes they still retain the 4g63 4cylinder(.2l ob), (evo variations) and evo chassis and they can handle with the best of 'em. Ok I shouldn't have posted this, there's a thread that I made about this car here, just do a search.
 
esco said:
I think some really insane shiznet is what they've been doing with evo's for years now. I'm not talking silly shiot but i'm talking about well over 700+hp STREET LEGAL evo's that can run on PUMP GAS. In fact if anyone has seen the norris designs evo(2.2L@800+hp! street legal car!) on scc. And yes they still retain the 4g63 4cylinder(.2l ob), (evo variations) and evo chassis and they can handle with the best of 'em. Ok I shouldn't have posted this, there's a thread that I made about this car here, just do a search.
That is so crazy! :eek4: :eek3dance :eek4: :eek3dance :eek4:

:1bowdown
 
Ok I didn't read threw it all because it was mostly nothing...

I'll give my opinion.

In drag racing it all comes down to displacement, and so the supra wins there. I think 1600 hp is possibly believable but I doubt it, there has to be A LOT of r&d into that, which means custom machining will expensive milling machines. So I don't really believe it has 1600. 600-900 hp is believable because supras are dyno queens, and if you can afford one, your most likely to afford modding the shit out of it too.

In handling I'de say the 240's, but with tons of money into suspensions like the JTGC those supras are pretty good because all it really takes is suspensions.

A supra versus a 600cc sportbike on the high way would be pretty close. Supras have a crazy highend power, the 600cc bike would probably be too scared to go past 160 miles. But where can you go that fast these days.

Toyota built themselves a nice muscle car, it handles like one too. I know all this because my cousin has one, fine machines and you grab sooooooo much attention it gets annoying.

Skyline versus Supra would be a nice match, but in drag racing titan motorsports street tire class supra is ripping everyone, I think they past 9 on street tires.

DSM are ripping it up too...

Never pass up the chance for a supra lol.
 
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