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#41 ·
TT is estimated 3500lbs its 20lbs less.. also, well if was a 2+2 TT it would be around 3600lbs.

lets say both car have 500hp on racing trim ( you know a lightened s15 will be really light) here on sebring track your saying your doubting s15 cant. :crazyrant S15 can even hang with r34. how many z32 are used for time attacks?
highly modified s15 can own this track. i choose my driver: Mario Andretti (30's) backup Rhys Millen. man, i cant lose :eek3dance muahaha
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lol i notice 112mph top speed with a 6 speed..your kidding

this is all crazy talk
 
#42 · (Edited)
i think the Z would still win because it would have a better/higher tq delivery because of the v6 vs. i4. both at 500hp i bet the Z would have a higher tq figure than a s15.

y would it matter that the z32 isnt used in time attacks??

and how would you know that a z32 cant hang with a r34?? is it just because you dont see it on best motoring. i remember reading something on the aussie skyline forum about a Z32 that set a new time record at one of the aussie tracks that no gtr has broken the record yet and all the members over there were throwing a fit about. of course that was about a 1year ago, so it could have changed.

since you get those guys ill get johnny o' connell and steve millen and ask him to bring his IMSA 300ZX and walk all over any race setup siliva :D of course this wouldnt be fair because its pushing 700hp on low boost and weighs like a maita. LOL
 
#43 ·
cvhswrestler1 said:
the s15 performs better then the z32tt......that is what i said, and its true.
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I was trying to make the point that a s15 is a newer model yet you insist on trying to compare it to a car that is at least 6 years older and designed for with a different automotive mindset. Why don't you try comparing the tt to a Silvia of the same year >_>. The US doesn't even have the s15 so as originally posted in the beginning we're looking at basically 95-96 240sx with sr swap against a 300zx tt.

Just trying to keep the discussion along the lines of the original question.
 
#44 ·
Long post alert...

Either car is a good choice. I chose to get a 300ZX TT because I didn't want to have to swap the motor just to have a fast car. The 300ZX is hard to work on, but it's actually easy to modify if you aren't looking for giant HP. People have run 11's on the stock turbos. My car, just throwing some bolt-ons at it, (intercooler, intake, full exhaust, chip, boost controller, bigger injectors) and I have run 12.2 at 116 mph with no dyno tuning and very little drag racing experience.

As for handling, the 240sx is lighter, so it has an inherit advantage. The 300ZX understeers in tight corners, but you can dial that out with suspension mods and tuning. Like a Supra, you simple have to counter the weight with big wide tires, which thankfully the car has appropriate fenders for.

The biggest problem with the 300ZX is really the weight... the biggest attraction for me was the durability of the car. The engine is very strong, and can make Supra rivaling power 800+ rwhp, although its harder to extract that power compared to a Supra. Unlike a SR20DET, the block itself is extremely strong. The rear end is very strong also, hard drag launches are no problem. Some guys have even run 1.5 sec 60 fts.

However, to me the 300zx has more heritage. It won its class at 24hrs of Lemans in '94, won 24hrs of Daytona, Sebring 12 hour victories, not to mention that Jun set a record of 260 mph at Bonneville. The 240SX has, um, plenty of drifting victories. But the 300ZX has at least 1 D1 victory, and I have the Japanese magazine article to prove it! ;)

So both are good cars, the main attraction of a 240SX to me is it's lightweight and relative simplicity, the 300ZX has power and durability, at the cost of weight and complexity.
 
#45 ·
let me start by saying that my original posts were all concerning the cars IN JAPAN....also in japan the stock tt z32 only comes with 280 hp......they are both awsome cars and i would kill for either one.....the s15 also has a close ratio 6 spd transmission while the tt z32 only has a 5 speed.....it all ads up when you factor in weight difference and hp along with faster shifting capabilities due to the close ration 6 spd....
 
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#47 ·
This thread almost turned into a debate over which is better s15 or TT z32. Well let me put it this way? When were each of these cars made? Technology advanced so much. Of course the s15 will at least be able to keep up with the z32, if not beat it. Even though the z32 was still made until 1999 it never recieved any changes. While the silvia continued to change.

However like what was stated above, you can not really compare these cars, because they are in completly different classes. The z32 is a GT(grand touring) car. It is a supercar. And I am sorry but the 240sx is not a supercar. These two cars were made to do completly different things. The Z32 was made to go extremely fast over long periods of time. The silvia was made to go quickly from point a to b.

Now with that said I would like to defend myself by saying that personally I would rather have a 240 because of the money to performance aspect.
 
#49 ·
man, why did you have to bring the supra name into it, comparing it to a z. thats a big no no.
the silvia has actually won a jgtcs, a 8 sec JUN car, couple of races that i cant come up with because of stupid drifting pops up everywhere. over clouded by the gtr and drifting. also this year jgtc the silvias got replaced by z33 which i dont mind

well ISMA Z huh..ill take a unlimited diashin jgtc silvia, but i said with even hp ratings (500)..if you want to play it like that, ill drop a rb28 with the same whp as z. i was going to say a 700hp sr but im kinda shakey on the reliability....I yer face (-_-)<^>

like aznyo15 says "originally posted in the beginning we're looking at basically 95-96 240sx with sr swap against a 300zx tt" ..im just having fun with it, while increasing my post #.hahahaha
 
#50 · (Edited)
allmotorz said:
both cars are great, but there functions are different.
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I agree with this man. (and whoever else says this).

I borrowed my best friend's Z for a few days. Honestly, I didn't think the weight was that bad. The car feels very solid, unlike my 240 which feels so light it could fly off the road (it just feels that way). Driving through the backroads was fun with that car because it felt so safe. It was always fun driving or riding along and laughing as a Camaro or Trans Am understeers through the turn behind us while we're giving it 8/10ths effort. Coming out of the turn and onto the straightaway, they try to pass, we give them a couple car lengths then hit the gas. See ya F-body.

Here WAS my friend's Z. (he became a family man and had to sell it, but wishes he didn't now). http://300zx.systemsilence.com
 
#51 ·
both the 300zx and the s15 sylvia ar among my two favorite cars
but stock the s15 would beat a 300zx
i love both cars and im not trying to argue each of the cars is aimed towards different crowds.
the only reason nissan never brought the sr20 to the states is because they didnt want a car(240sx) in the line up that would offer performance near or better than the top of the line car(300zx tt) for only thousands of dollars less.
im not trying to argue here, i love both cars
 
#53 ·
Riki Tiki said:
the only reason nissan never brought the sr20 to the states is because they didnt want a car(240sx) in the line up that would offer performance near or better than the top of the line car(300zx tt) for only thousands of dollars less.
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So you're trying to say a 91 s13 would be in direct competition with a 300zx tt? Because I don't remember any s15 being around back then.....for us the 300zx tt was long gone in the states by the time we saw the s15 come out(in japan), I'd sure hope it would be better being as its a newer model -_-. Let's try to keep the timeline intact here.
 
#54 ·
Well since they are now killing the Silvia with rumors to taking the thunder away from the 350Z that's about all the truth I need.

Same thing happened with the 944 Turbo, a $50k car in 1988/89 that would smoke the $80k (similarly equipped) 911 Turbo on anything almost up to the 1/4 mile (the rear engine arrangement and axle setup in the 911 [and VW bug] make them ideal 1/4 mile machines).

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#55 ·
I'm Neogenesis from the 300zxclub and TT.net,
I agree with SpeedyTTZ.
I don't think you guys understand. You might have heard about the N/A Z32 but the TT is a different car. The motor is a little different also. Yes, we all know the Z32TT weight a little high, but the VG30DETT makes up for that. The thing I like about the VG30DETT is that there is so much potential and due to the duribilty on the stock internals, you won't be needing to waste money on those. And since the VG30DETT produces a true TT and dual exhuast, that is why I chose my Z32TT over 240SX. The Z32 were also a luxury car so I don't think they went all out on the performence. I believe someone from JWT has stated this but don't qoute me on that "The VG30DETT are 400hp engines lowered to 300hp." I do believe that is true. And like any other super car, maint. cost will be a little high. Both cars are great I agree, but on a stock to stock comparison, I would go with the Z, for their potential VG engine, handling, and hey, it's a Z!
 
#56 ·
JasonH said:
Go swap out the exhaust manifold on your 240sx w/sr20det, that's a bitch, now can you imagine finishing one side of a Z32 TT, and realizing you have to do the other side as well.
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what are you talking about lol? the exhuast manifold is that bad to change compared to other things lol. But yeah on a z32 TT would suck.
 
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#57 ·
sleepyRPS13 said:
if you want to play it like that, ill drop a rb28 with the same whp as z. i
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lol he said RB28
 
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