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#62 ·
240maniac said:
Hahahah slow4dr you gotta galant vr4 eh? Bad ass sleeper! I love those!
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:thumbsup Thanks! That will be replaced by the 240. I have a parts list all written up currently but does not include all the NHRA safety items. So I may pull it off and get kicked off the track thereafter. WHEN the motor breaks the project will be changed to 9's for $10K. Or just throw another $250 longblock in it and try again.

380WHP would be enough HP in a car that weighed 2500 lbs with me in it. Of coarse this would be on slicks and require an almost perfect pass. My Galant makes 350 AWHP and has gone 115 mph. It weighs 3300 lbs with me in it. 30 more HP 800 lbs less will easily get into the mid 120's.
 
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#63 ·
slow4dr said:
:thumbsup Thanks! That will be replaced by the 240. I have a parts list all written up currently but does not include all the NHRA safety items. So I may pull it off and get kicked off the track thereafter. WHEN the motor breaks the project will be changed to 9's for $10K. Or just throw another $250 longblock in it and try again.

380WHP would be enough HP in a car that weighed 2500 lbs with me in it. Of coarse this would be on slicks and require an almost perfect pass. My Galant makes 350 AWHP and has gone 115 mph. It weighs 3300 lbs with me in it. 30 more HP 800 lbs less will easily get into the mid 120's.
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hehe, thats great n all but 120's still aren't 10's but mid 11's. The difference is staggering. I'm not tryen to bring you down here, I am just a realistic kind of guy. Maybe you are the driver/mechanic that can pull it off out of the crowd, who knows. Best of luck dude.

Ive seen guys with those numbers who coulsn't break out of the 12's, but that still isn't saying a whole lot.
 
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Modifying wise I'd have to say the 1G DSMs. They can be made insanely fast, for very cheap, and the AWD's can be had for cheap.
 
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#65 ·
gladhatter said:
But is the Camaro cheaper?
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That's not the point, it's the cheapest, fastest car. If you only pay attention to price, then the Kia Rio is the cheapest, fastest car, simply because it's the cheapest car. You can get a used Z28 for about the price of any of the cars people have mentioned here, and yet the Z28 is almost 2 seconds faster.
 
#66 ·
dude the neon is about 6k cheaper, and they run nearly the same 1/4 mile times. Boost control, exhaust, drag radials and you have the same times still for less money. Also I don't know if youve been to a chevy dealer recently, but you won't find any new camaro's/firebirds, wich means no warranties either.
 
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#67 ·
14.5 drift said:
dude the neon is about 6k cheaper, and they run nearly the same 1/4 mile times. Boost control, exhaust, drag radials and you have the same times still for less money. Also I don't know if youve been to a chevy dealer recently, but you won't find any new camaro's/firebirds, wich means no warranties either.
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You make it sound like the Z28 is still the same price ever since the last gen came out.

It's not dude. I've found a silver '01 Z28 with 47k miles, full loaded, and Kelly Blue Booked price is $19,019. I was with my Dad when he was talking to the dealer at the Bill Lang Cadillac dealership in Vallejo, CA. The dealer said he would drop the price down to $15,500.

That's pretty damn cheap. You can find a lot of 97's for less than 9k.

Even if an LS1 has 110k miles on the block, you can still get it to easily run 10's.

THAT my friend, my fellow 240SX member is Cheap and Fast. :thumbsup



One more thing, Lunati has a 408 stroker kit for the LS1. Which is the largest kit available for the LS1. http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/Strokerkits <---408 stroker on the bottom (Yes, I am aware that it includes other mods, not only the stroker kit). :)
 
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14.5 drift said:
dude the neon is about 6k cheaper, and they run nearly the same 1/4 mile times. Boost control, exhaust, drag radials and you have the same times still for less money. Also I don't know if youve been to a chevy dealer recently, but you won't find any new camaro's/firebirds, wich means no warranties either.
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You do realize that the neon is nowhere near as fast as the camaro, right? Camaro runs low 13's, neon runs high 14's. Also, even with a boost controller, exhaust and drag radials, you still probably won't beat the Camaro with no mods on street tires, not that that was even the discussion anyway. Not to mention that chevy doesn't sell a camaro currently, so you have to buy one used, and even a used 02 SS is going to be cheaper than a new SRT neon.
 
#69 ·
Man there's a lot of confusion going on in this thread....... I think the original poster meant........ well shit I don't know what he meant, lol. The first thing that came to mind was what's the fastest/cheapest car stock, new or used. I hesitated to say Camaro/Trans Am because I figured that people would look at my signature and think that I'm biased.... I'm sure I am a little biased, but the fact is that you can get a 98 or 99 no or low option six speed for around $10k or even less sometimes and run solid 13's stock. In reality you could expect 13.5's in average conditions, better if you are lucky. I could be missing something here, but currently no cars are coming to mind that run mid 13's stock for $10k :12dunno

As far as cheaply modifying cars, I have no clue. I don't know enough about other cars and mod prices to comment.
 
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http://www.rodsmail.net/files/BAM/99Hugger.html <---This guy took four seconds off of his 1/4 with exhaust and a ram air style hood. And I am sure the exhaust and hood cost him less than a grand.


So, I guess it is settled. The Camaro/Firebird is the cheapest and the fastest.

But, what about the fox body 5.0? Or the 1995 - 1999 Cobra (DOHC V8's = teh seckz IMO)?
 
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#71 ·
Mid 120's is easily enough for a 10. case in point my fathers car runs consistent 10.80 @ 121 w/1.6 60 ft's.

As far as what vehicle is cheapest. New the SRT is the hands down winner. Also the SRT is NOT 2 seconds slower than an LS1. The fastest stock LS1 1/4 time recorded was in the high 12's. The fastest 1/4 stock for the SRT is 13.6.

I agree with fastz on buying used and modifying it, there are many options for going fast.
 
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so you're claiming that a car with 45 less horsepower than a 350Z that weighs like 100 lbs less somehow beats the 350Z in a quarter mile? Also, it weighs 200 pounds MORE than an s2000, and has the same horsepower, but beats the s2000 as well? Sorry, but no. SRT-4's run about the same times as GS-T/Xs (14.8/14.9), pretty unsurprisingly so, considering the cars have almost identical specifications.
 
#74 ·
PrincipleOfEvil said:
What car does your dad have? <_<
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RWD, auto, V8, If he could get it to cut 1.4 60 ft's like it used to, it would be running high 10.60's.

My 240 will be 500 lbs lighter and make close to the same HP as his.
 
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InsanityInc said:
so you're claiming that a car with 45 less horsepower than a 350Z that weighs like 100 lbs less somehow beats the 350Z in a quarter mile? Also, it weighs 200 pounds MORE than an s2000, and has the same horsepower, but beats the s2000 as well? Sorry, but no. SRT-4's run about the same times as GS-T/Xs (14.8/14.9), pretty unsurprisingly so, considering the cars have almost identical specifications.
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WTF? How does an 350Z have 45 more hp than a SRT4? My 03 put down 221WHP & 232WTQ stock. The 04's are even stronger averaging 235WHP. The FASTEST stock time of any SRT4 is 13.6. There is no DSM/350Z that has run near that quick STOCK. My SRT weighs 2840 lbs w/a half tank of gas. Last time I checked S2000's weigh 2835 lbs. All of the cars mentioned here are more expensive than the SRT4 as well. It's ok though because at the end of the day it is still a NEON. :thumbsup

OK calm back down......If you haven't noticed the SRT4 was majorly underrated from Dodge.
 
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#76 ·
slow4dr said:
WTF? How does an 350Z have 45 more hp than a SRT4? My 03 put down 221WHP & 232WTQ stock. The 04's are even stronger averaging 235WHP. The FASTEST stock time of any SRT4 is 13.6. There is no DSM/350Z that has run near that quick STOCK. My SRT weighs 2840 lbs w/a half tank of gas. Last time I checked S2000's weigh 2835 lbs. All of the cars mentioned here are more expensive than the SRT4 as well. It's ok though because at the end of the day it is still a NEON. :thumbsup
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A quick jaunt over to dodge.com will handily disprove everything you said. SRT-4 has 230 horsepower, 350Z has 287, that's 55(well, 57) more horsepower (turns out I was actually giving the SRT too much credit initially, so the s2000 actually has 10 more horsepower). You really can't dispute that. Also, dodge's own site says the car weighs 2970 lbs. That's pretty close to 3000 if you ask me.

Sorry, but a 3000 lb, 230 horsepower, FF car with whopping 205/50 tires isn't going to run a 13.7, end of story. Anything else?
 
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InsanityInc said:
A quick jaunt over to dodge.com will handily disprove everything you said. SRT-4 has 230 horsepower, 350Z has 287, that's 55(well, 57) more horsepower (turns out I was actually giving the SRT too much credit initially, so the s2000 actually has 10 more horsepower). You really can't dispute that. Also, dodge's own site says the car weighs 2970 lbs. That's pretty close to 3000 if you ask me.

Sorry, but a 3000 lb, 230 horsepower, FF car with whopping 205/50 tires isn't going to run a 13.7, end of story. Anything else?
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WHAT HP WILL A 350Z/S2000 PUT TO THE GROUND????? Once you open your eyes you will see.

I have weighed my car on a CHP scale. What part of this cant you understand?
 
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#79 ·
slow4dr said:
WHAT HP WILL A 350Z/S2000 PUT TO THE GROUND????? Once you open your eyes you will see.
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About 220-225 for the s2000, and about 255-265 for the 350Z. However, the difference in drivetrain loss between FF and FR cars is easily made up for by the fact that during acceleration the FF car loses weight off the drive wheels, while the FR car gains it.

Also, it still doesn't even matter, because the SRT-4 is almost a specifications-wise duplicate of a GS-T.

I have weighed my car on a CHP scale. What part of this cant you understand?
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Lets see... who to trust.. the manufacturer of the car, or some guy who weighed it on a CHP scale.... hmmm, that's a toughy.
 
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Oh, and I went to the other thread. You have two people supporting you, and one person supporting me. They are on an SRT-4 FORUM, and someone is supporting the CAMARO. That should tell you something.
 
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