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i wish i could say it was mine...but its not it belongs to me and my bros friend. heres a few pics
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brembos peekin thru!
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hit a ditch swervin a deer..second time thats happend. has a new one sittin to be installed
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oooo!! cf hood :yummy
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close up on the weave
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Well than you'd be wrong. To think that one car is better than another car purely on it's looks is not going to hold much weight on a performance biased website. You may think highly of your friends car but statistically in every category the evo mr is better. Even ergonomically now that it has the comphy new bilstein setup.


Esco, where you at?!?!?



But between you me and the wall SR20sleeper, I'd rather have the sti ;)
 
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hey i kno specs and all not just goin on looks...i read the intire review of the 05 MR and STI in car and driver..the mr BARELY beat the sti out of first place. i dont remember exact numbers have to go look again but ti was something like MR-145/160 STI 143/160 total points and for the extra 2 points over the STI the evo is ~$6000 more. but ive seen and heard, both of em run i just love the sti's sound and how it looks. but lets not get into an argument here, thats what that other post was about. oh yea..and he got the CF hood as the result of the 1st deer incident. he hit one front got messed up, insurance paid to fix the bumper and he bought the cf hood..second incident was less than $500 or w/e so insurance wouldnt pay for it.
 
#8 ·
if you say you don't like the STi.... you've never bounced the engine off the rev limiter at a stop light and slid your left foot off the clutch pedal....


I say no more.
 
#10 ·
I prefer the evo because it has always been better overall in performance. Ever since these 2 cars hit the streets of Japan and Europe over 10yrs ago, the evo has pretty much always been better at handling while the sti has always been faster in the straights. Even when both cars are modified similarly, the evo still comes out on top. Scc's project evo and sti comes to mind. They took the evo and sti and decided to fix what thier con's were vice versa to each other. The evo was a better handler so they added hp and left the suspension stock, the sti needed handling so they overhauld it's entire suspension with one from praxis which was completely adjustable. It still couldn't best the evo's slalom and skidpad numbers.

The people who usually prefer the sti is because of the legendary boxer sound and usually the power it has over the evo and some may think it looks better although imo looks wouldn't be the thing to win me over in this category.

They both have active differentials(a new feature for this generation sti, they were always viscous), although the evo's (ayc/acd) system has always been better and it's in it's 3rd generation of development.

It goes down to looks and what really matters to you the most, power or handling? Or it could just be an unexplainable reason and that you've always held a bias er something. Or because you praise it just cuz your friend has one. Whatever the case they're both excellent cars and you have to remember competition is what made them so great. If these cars didn't have each other to compete with they wouldn't be such great performers at thier price. They wouldn't have evolved so frequently.

If I had money like that, i'd have both.
 
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sdtouge said:
the only thing the sti was even close to winning (but still lost:)), was 1/4 mile times,
in handling, the sti gets owned.

evo, hands down....
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It should also be noted wich car that all the drivers seemed to like the best.......even though the sti was able to hold it's own with numerical figures, all the drivers felt the sti was heavy providing slow transitions, as well as a nasty case of understeer. If i wanted a true track car I know wich car to get.


I could be wrong, but I believe the evo still holds the fastest time for the drag strip also. The extra displacement is nice but with the less efficient design of the ej motors they aren't yet putting it to good use.
 
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14.5 drift said:
It should also be noted wich car that all the drivers seemed to like the best.......even though the sti was able to hold it's own with numerical figures, all the drivers felt the sti was heavy providing slow transitions, as well as a nasty case of understeer. If i wanted a true track car I know wich car to get.


I could be wrong, but I believe the evo still holds the fastest time for the drag strip also. The extra displacement is nice but with the less efficient design of the ej motors they aren't yet putting it to good use.
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The evoMR is faster than the sti now, the 6speed and the few hp's it has along with it weighing a bit less has made it a bit quicker. But it does cost more than the sti now.
The 2.5L engine in the sti is relatively new, it's not really as similar as the 2.5rs's engine as people may think. So thats the thing that the evo also holds over the sti, a much more proven powerplant(not that the sti's can't make big number's, it can) with a massive aftermarket since it's been out for over a decade and it's been refined to a point where it's just the bread and butter of turbo I4's(age is what ej20 has over the ej25). The newer 4g63 series tend to hold more power and do better in gains on stock internals than stock boxer's do, and by design boxer engines are more prone to valvetrain floatage when pushed to the max than an inline engine.

Boxer engines are also a hell of alot more difficult to work on under the hood than I4's are too. Just to adjust the valvetrain on a subie, you'd have to crawl under the car and adjust them upside down. I was on a wrx forums and a person who relashed thier valves took him several hours. Lining up a tranny with an engine, looked like hell too. Than you have that top-mounted intercooler that can be a pita and if you want to relocate to an fmic you have to be careful in increasing turbo lag and cooling efficiency. If you're a backyard mechanic who tends to work on your car under the hood or under some jackstands, subie's aren't gonna be friendly for ya. If you have access to a lift or you have lots of money to pay a shop to work on the car for ya an sti wouldn't be a problem.

So people who pick the evo may pick it because it's easier to work on than a subaru or they may like the familiarity of working on the 4g63 since anyone who's worked on dsm's or evo's will be able to work on it quite easily, the knowledge is all around us.
 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
i took a ride today in it one the way home from school..thing is sick i dont care who says what. we were doin like 80 on back roads on the way to his house so i could go loook at his porches...his dad just got a gt3, the thing is insane. they had a few extra rotors they were huge like 16 in rotors. but his car is so nice, i was in the back seat and it was a fun ass ride.
 
#20 ·
they are terribly nice. the interiors, the sound, the torque......... :25drool




I wasn't tryin to take any thing from the sti earlier. I even said to you that I would take one over an evo. It was this that inspired my comments
let me guess..you're an evo guy..well if you are, DIE!! lol j/p but i think sti's are the better than evo IMO
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later,
chris
 
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