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~i already posted this on nico but i decided it would hurt to post here as well~


just to get this out of the way! the type of voltmeter/continuity tester tool i have been using is the really basic one where you hook one end up to a ground, then the other up to something ( apositive current spot) and it will light up if there is continuity... or vice versa.
so when i go to crank over my engine, the starter is not turning. i have power inside, my starter relay is clicking, my battery pulls 13 volts, and when i touch the positive spot on the starter, it lights up. negaitve will light up no matter what beasue its grounded to the engine.

i haad to get the starter from a guy in florida becasue my motorset didnt have one. he said he tested it ( i talked to him today) and is 100 % posisive it was working when he shiped it out. that does not mean that i couldnt have droped it or it could have been damaged in shiping though.

so basically i am just looking for any ideas. i am was going to pull my starter today to jump test that mofo, but i decided to wait until i heard from you guys.

also, the positive is on ther good, and i beleive the negative is as well, but it doesnt pop into place like the other points on the harness do. but when i go to test out the third little pin on the starter, it doesnt light up (no contuity), it does light up when i use that pin for a ground, because of it being grounded to the chassy. so i thinhk that something is wrong because i beleive that shoudl be lighting up (have continuity).

the third one i am talking about is the one that goes fro the same spot as the ground and positive, but goes to that seperate little motor attached to the starter.

wooh. sorry for the long post, i juust wanted to try to cover everything first...

thanks alot
matt

if you want feel free to aim me at sdtouge
 
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is the positve cable connection/connector to the starter secure...when i got mine the connector was loose, u could put it on the starter and try to crank it and nuthing...if u went and held it on the starter and had sumone else start the car it would work..needless to say i had it rewired w/ a better connection...so i dunno if that helps u but i tried...good luck
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
ya ig ot te starter figured out.

it will crank over but not fully run yet. i dont think its getting spark.

aso i pulled codes from my ecu and got code 55 iwhc means its all good.
 
#4 ·
yea i was having the same problem on one cylinder, on of the coil packs had a weak spark...my plugs were also toast so it wouldnt fire cuz they were fouled...might wanna check that too. clean em and put em backin...start over...just a thought...
 
Discussion starter · #11 ·
haha lol it still scares me when it first starts up.

ill take some pics when i get it off te jackstands and maybe wash my car.

tommorw got to set the timing, plug up some other vacuum lines, refill the fluid, then bounce off the rev limiter. acutally im not yet sure about the last one, but i am thinking about it.

it doesnt want to idle so im hoping a combination of setting the timing to factory spec along with plugin the open vacuum lines should clear things right up.
 
#12 ·
If you need anything just give me a call. I'll be at my friends house helping him with his 4X4 Mitsubishi Montero. He's pretty lost. He just put in a clutch today and now doesn't know what to do with the clutch lines. And suddenly it doesn't start.
 
Discussion starter · #13 ·
lol that sucks. im gonna set my timing, then refill all the fluids that need be, and spray seom carb cleaner into my aicv, and i tihnk thats all i need to do.

ill call you. i was just reading about someone on nico who got his timing belt 1 tooth off and his wouldnt barely start or idle. ine starts fine, but then it kinda dies. all the people ive talked to say its my timing, im really hoping i didnt mess up the timing belt assembly when i ahd to put in my water pump.
 
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You have to set the timing correctly and it will be fine. Then make sure all of your vacuum lines are right. If they are not the car will die as you drive it. There are other things you'll have to do but you will have to get them done along the way. I'm going to be going to the Shop on Wed to unload that crate if youwant you can come along and help. We can take some time to fine tune that day.
 
Discussion starter · #15 ·
ok. i got my starter situation figured out, the ca and ka starters use totally different plugs for the positive (it wasnt the negative afterall lol) just a little splicing and thats all that is reqquired.
my idle is horible, and i cant get to to idle better. with the idle adjustment thing all the way counterclockwise (idle higher), i wa turning it with my hand it was so loose. and the cas was out of adjustment too. when i advanced it it would stuble and almost stall, i would have it completely retarded via the cas and it would start to go better.

i thought that my maf could have gotten bad over the three months that it had been sitting, so i unplugged it and the car died, so the maf is good.

there is one thing i can think off though, wheni put in the new water pump on, i had to remove the timing belt, and it is very possible that i skiped a tooth or something of that matter when putting it back on.

i read about somebody else on here having this similar problem, and also runnignout of adjustment onn the cas.

im just rying to get some opinions on if anybody thinks this could be the case, im gonna start on this tommorow if i dont get any objections.

thanks
matt


also, i tried to use this ghette timing gun,m but i couldnt get it to work, and i though possibly the #1 cylinder wasnt firing, but after taking it out, its pretty black so i know its firing maybe my spark plug was fualty or something.
 
Discussion starter · #17 ·
yep new 02 sensor as well. timing would onl adjust so much. im gonna be checking on vacuum lines but im pretty wsure there all good.

it wouldnt be that hard for me 2 check, o its a possible problem, im just gonna check it out.
 
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