hey i just got my hands on a sr20de out of a sentra with a blown piston ....im planning on doing a complete build up ...my question is can you jus bolt up a rwd tranny to the fwd engine and if not how much work is it?
rwd sr20de?
dannybing
1 - 18 of 18 Posts
de tranny
I'm pretty sure theres no US rwd trans that will bolt up, this is why everyone buys the whole engine/tranny/ecu package from importers for megabucks. You got the right idea, though. This is the route I wanna go when I swap mine this winter. I plan on getting an Aspec SR20 from a 91 G20/SE-R/nx2000 and look for a deal on a silvia 5 speed. I dont understand why everybody out there is dropping 5 g's on the whole set and swap when the same indestructible block is here in the US, sans turbo. I mean, they're all droppin cash on these Jspec motors just to swap out the turbo, downpipe, intercooler, and retune the ecu once they get them. THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF BUYING A TURBO MOTOR!
Get the US motor and then handpick your turbo, intercooler, JWT ecu, etc as money allows. Until then you can run NA on a nice rebuilt high revving motor that DIDNT come out of a truck.
I'm pretty sure theres no US rwd trans that will bolt up, this is why everyone buys the whole engine/tranny/ecu package from importers for megabucks. You got the right idea, though. This is the route I wanna go when I swap mine this winter. I plan on getting an Aspec SR20 from a 91 G20/SE-R/nx2000 and look for a deal on a silvia 5 speed. I dont understand why everybody out there is dropping 5 g's on the whole set and swap when the same indestructible block is here in the US, sans turbo. I mean, they're all droppin cash on these Jspec motors just to swap out the turbo, downpipe, intercooler, and retune the ecu once they get them. THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF BUYING A TURBO MOTOR!
Get the US motor and then handpick your turbo, intercooler, JWT ecu, etc as money allows. Until then you can run NA on a nice rebuilt high revving motor that DIDNT come out of a truck.
Joined
·
3,105 Posts
the j's and q's version of the silvia and the 200sx in europe got them. i think the closest rwd counterpart we get here is the ca20de and ca18(d)e found in the s12 200sx
Joined
·
2,800 Posts
op1e said:
it doesnt cost 5k for a front clip.
upgrading to a FMIC, larger turbo, and retune doesnt defeat the purpose of buying a turbo'd motor. and we're all tired of hearing this truck motor crap. and i've never heard of ANYBODY swapping in a FWD sr into 240. NEVER. and its not the same motor, so dont say it is.
Dont quote me on what it bolts up to, but its the same block. Look up Project SE-R in TURBO magazine. I dont think TURBO would fib to us. The article reads that the american motor is the same bulletproof block with sleeves thats in the DET from overseas. They got 350 wheel hp in a 91 Sentra with no fortification. They brought the project back ten years later in an issue either late last year or early this year. If you got all the time and money to do everything at once like you did wuss then more power to ya. But dont knock the rest of us who have to start off a little slower cause we got lighter wallets.
Joined
·
2,800 Posts
i dont doubt the motor is incredibly similar, but how many people have thrown a FWD SR in a 240?
Joined
·
389 Posts
for the price of that u might as well turbo the KA in which is already rwd.
Joined
·
4,540 Posts
Let's clear up some of the bad info in this thread. Instead of typing from memory, I've copied this from SE-R.net. They may look the same but there is a clear advantage of having the sr20det over the de with a turbo kit. A few other things I'd like to add:
1. Front clips don't cost $5k
2. If this was such a good idea, it would be been done years ago.
3. Calling the KA a truck motor is :greddy:. I just saw a 600hp KA run this weekend at the drags. The fastest run he has gotten to date is in the mid 10's. Truck motor or not... :1bowdown
On with the info...
There are several versions of both the SR20DE and the SR20DET (Remember 'T' is for Turbo). While the engines are similar in most respects there are several differences.
Here are the differences between the DET and the DE:
The DET has oil squirter piston coolers
The DET has a bigger oil pump.
The DET has a different front pulley.
The DET has lower compression pistons (8.3:1 vs 9.5:1).
The DET has bigger injectors.
The DET has direct ignition.
The DET has a variable intake cam, runs retarded at idle, advanced mid range and retarded top end.
The DET has mechanical shim in bucket type lifters with a slightly bigger in duration exhaust cam.
*Just about all the parts between a DET and a DE interchange.
GTiR Info
The GTi-R DET has individual Throttle body injection.
The GTi-R DET has stronger main cap bolts.
The GTi-R DET has beefier rods.
1. Front clips don't cost $5k
2. If this was such a good idea, it would be been done years ago.
3. Calling the KA a truck motor is :greddy:. I just saw a 600hp KA run this weekend at the drags. The fastest run he has gotten to date is in the mid 10's. Truck motor or not... :1bowdown
On with the info...
There are several versions of both the SR20DE and the SR20DET (Remember 'T' is for Turbo). While the engines are similar in most respects there are several differences.
Here are the differences between the DET and the DE:
The DET has oil squirter piston coolers
The DET has a bigger oil pump.
The DET has a different front pulley.
The DET has lower compression pistons (8.3:1 vs 9.5:1).
The DET has bigger injectors.
The DET has direct ignition.
The DET has a variable intake cam, runs retarded at idle, advanced mid range and retarded top end.
The DET has mechanical shim in bucket type lifters with a slightly bigger in duration exhaust cam.
*Just about all the parts between a DET and a DE interchange.
GTiR Info
The GTi-R DET has individual Throttle body injection.
The GTi-R DET has stronger main cap bolts.
The GTi-R DET has beefier rods.
on the gtir stuff, we had that idea a while back, then we realized the intake manifold tb would be facing the firewall if you put it in rear wheel drive configuration.you could lose the manifold.but if you lose the intake manifold, you lose the individual throttle bodies more than likely.
the gtir throttles can work, it just needs some machining, my frined bought thme fort his sr20de but flaked out and parted the project out.
you can go some different setups with this motor
sr20de, ka harness, jim wolf tuned ecu (ka one)
sr20de, det harness, swith from disctiburot to cas, sr20det harness and ecu re tuned by jw
these motors are alot alike i guess, excpet oil squiteres and compression
you can go some different setups with this motor
sr20de, ka harness, jim wolf tuned ecu (ka one)
sr20de, det harness, swith from disctiburot to cas, sr20det harness and ecu re tuned by jw
these motors are alot alike i guess, excpet oil squiteres and compression
The gtir motors also have sodium filled exhaust valves to more efficiently dissipate heat. If you want to switch to the coil on plug setup, you would either have to put the cam angle sensor from a det onto the de head (don't know if this works) or use the entire det head. The gtir motor has coil on plug as well, I think, so that entire head would be great because of the heads. Like previously stated though, there are sr20de rwd cars. That would work better because the intake manifold as well as may other parts would not need to be changed out.
1 - 18 of 18 Posts
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
