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ABS and drifting

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#1 ·
ok, I tried searching for this but couldn't find any answers

I was wondering how abs affects drifting. Can you drift with it? Is it easier/harder to drift with it? Does it limit the techniques you can use to drift?

any help would be greatly appreciated
 
#3 ·
so what you're saying is that you can't brake to enduce a drift if you have abs?
also, could you just take out the fuse for abs on your car if you want to turn it off?
 
#7 ·
to what I understand is that if you take off abs when you hit the break and lock the brakes you'll drift but you'll slow down to fast and wont have enough momentum for a continued drift "unless" you modify you're suspension for a harder rear suspention and not to soft but soft front suspention to keep your body's momentum in a constant motion.

Love physics thats why I wana get into drifting.

Not to mention it would be better to do this type of suspention tuneing for most types of races except for drags...and of coarse your not goina be dragn with enything other than a RB26 under the hood...
 
#12 ·
DspecDJ said:
ABS is for pussies... straight up.
how the hell is ABS for pussies? ABS is just a friggin system that prevents the wheels from locking otherwise creating a power slide. ABS is pretty usefull in some cases. but in drift i think its crap. lets just say you need to control the ammount of braking in drift. one thing i dont like about ABS is that u gota gun down on the break and it will slow down for u from there.... alot of american made cars have it and im not use to drivin with ABS... i detest it actually
 
#15 ·
yeah i dont like ABS like i said above and the break control comes in handy alot. thats why theres alot of people who drive ABS that borrow non ABS cars and get into wrecks or close to it.. i cant say anything yet but i havnt gotten into a wreck. the only car ive driven that has ABS is my dad's 99 4runner and 06 Camry.
 
#17 ·
i train my abs everyday :p
j/k

in europe we have abs since 8 years now its standard in every car.. it is actually a good thing but you can drive without it too if you're an inexperienced driver abs is very good because it can prevent you from crashes.

and for drifting i guess abs doesnt matter, because if you want to drift you must have torque to make the tires loose, even if you're e-braking you still step on the gas after e-brakin to slide because if you wont, you will stop. and i guess if you want to drift you wont step on the brake because it slows down all 4 tires and you want to loose the rear wheels and not get slower right? :)
 
#18 ·
abs is nice. if you want to go on the track and dont like it for your drifting, then pull the fuse. put it back in for the ride home. im not quite sure whether its techinically better or worse for drifting, but im certain it can be done either way and its probably 99% personal preference. so like i said, if you think its messing you up, then pull the fuse and see what happens.
 
#19 ·
cycotron said:
abs is nice. if you want to go on the track and dont like it for your drifting, then pull the fuse. put it back in for the ride home. im not quite sure whether its techinically better or worse for drifting, but im certain it can be done either way and its probably 99% personal preference. so like i said, if you think its messing you up, then pull the fuse and see what happens.
^what he said, pull the fuse.
but if you will think about it and read what i said you will come to the conclusing that it really doesnt matter :thumbsup
 
#20 ·
ABS doesn't really effect your drifting, bro. If you are in an automatic, and have low horsepower - you are going to want to use your ebrake alot and will find yourself flooring your car. Pull up the e-brake quickly to whip your ass end at a nice angle and quickly lower it. Then apply gas at a steady rate.

If you really want to do some damage in a manual, you do a brake lock. Basically when you're cruising in 3rd gear and hit the beginning of the turn, you drop to second. Of course, this will cause your wheels to lock and kick out your ass end. You will have to then apply gas and hold out a countersteer through the apex. Then once you're leaving you straighten the wheel and blaze the F* outa there .

Sorry, I went on a drifting babbling spree ;). Anyway, Abs doesn't really effect the drift all too much. You shouldn't just be stomping down on the breaks to activate the ABS anyway. Peace.
 
#21 ·
another question just came do mine
Does turning abs off in a 240 with abs affect the brakes at all if you have bought brake pads that are for a 240 with abs? Should you buy brake pads for a 240 without abs if you turned your abs off?
 
#24 ·
i heard that you want to disconnect your ABS (from fuse box) when drifting because if you spin around and you brake your abs with spaz out. something to that effect but i do think its a good idea just to disconnect it.
 
#26 ·
Big-Willy said:
to what I understand is that if you take off abs when you hit the break and lock the brakes you'll drift but you'll slow down to fast and wont have enough momentum for a continued drift "unless" you modify you're suspension for a harder rear suspention and not to soft but soft front suspention to keep your body's momentum in a constant motion.

Love physics thats why I wana get into drifting.

Not to mention it would be better to do this type of suspention tuneing for most types of races except for drags...and of coarse your not goina be dragn with enything other than a RB26 under the hood...
What in the fuck are you talking about? I'm not going to flame but thats completly wrong. Why in the hell would you want a stiffer rear end? Yeah it will whip out easier but notice how anybody who drifts USUALLY has something like 8kg in the front and 6kg in the rear, or 9 and 7 or 10 and 8 etc etc. I run JIC's FLT-A2 coilover 7kg in the front and 5kg in the rear and have my dampning cranked up all the way in the front and about half way in the rear because when drifting you want to transfer the rear ends weight. Some people like to run stiffer dampning in the rear but the springs in the front are still stiffer then the springs in the rear. And no if you were driving in a straight line and then locked your up your wheels as you were coming to a corner you wouldn't drift, you'd understeer straight into whatever was in front of you, now if you transfer the momentum increadibly hard and then give it 10% brakes for about 2 seconds then yes you will go sideways but at a very little angle and you will slow down a lot.

To answer the original question you want to not have abs for a number of reasons. One of the most obvious as somebody already mentioned is that the abs system spaz's out, another is that when in the middle of a drift and you want to lets say extend the drift or bring your car more forward to an apex then you hit the brakes, when you take it to the extreme sometimes your front wheels will lock up and your rears will keep spinning that=good, so to do that type of stuff you can't have abs.