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Building my KA24DE

4.1K views 28 replies 7 participants last post by  Ska'reallY  
#1 ·
Through research and lots of searching around on these forum boards and other various ones, I've decided I'm going to take the N/A route. ...at least for now. This will be smart because if I end up deciding to go turbo in the future I won't have to worry about blowing my engine. I also want to rebuild because my engine has 170,000 miles.

So let me know how this looks:


-AMS Basic Engine Rebuild Kit - .020 over pistons
-AMS KA24DE Fuel System w/ 255 lph fuel pump
-ISIS Aluminum Radiator
-ISIS Dual N1 Exhaust+Testpipe
-eBay CAI piping + Apexi power filter
-New Clutch/Flywheel
-Xcessive Intake Manifold


That's all I have on the list so far. Any recommendations, should I get an upgraded JWT ECU?

Also, what injectors should I choose with that fuel system?
 
#4 ·
That really shouldn't matter, there essentially the same.

Injectors I would run no big then that stock S13/S14 SR 370cc Injectors. You dont need the AMS Fuel Kit unless your Making like 450+ whp. The SR Inj. and Walbro 255 FP will do you more then enough.
Also since your going to be using the Xcessive Manifold you'll want to either make a Custom Intake or buy the 89-90 SOHC Intake pipe due to the TB being Up top and Level now rather than Down below and angled up.

As for an ECU get something that you can tune or someone else can tune because if you get an JWT, every time you want something changed you'll have to send it back and they charge every time...
 
#6 ·
Haha, believe me I know that but if he's "Building" the motor why would you stick w/ the stock cams? Considering he's Over Boring and has a High RPM Manifold (Xcessive)
 
#16 ·
but You can get the KA24E pistons and they will raise the compression in the DE to either 11.1:1 or 11.6:1 depending on which year you get. You are also goin to want cams with duration somewhere around 270 and with a lift of .430 and lets not forget you'll need every bolt on. You can also get a set off 99 chrome altima piston rings, if you so desire. If you are like me you are also goin to want to balance abd blueprint it and some major headwork.
 
#18 ·
With a KA-T build, I would still like to rebuild my engine, but I'd rebuild it with just a normal kit that would replace the stock pistons/rods/gaskets and everything. Because my engine has 170k miles.

Something such as this: Nissan Engine Rebuild Kits from RPM Machine

And with a turbo build it would also be smart to upgrade my entire fuel system, correct? So I would need to invest in higher cc injectors, a 255lph fuel pump, etc. Or would the AMS fuel system upgrade work just fine? I've also read you need a Z32 MAF on turbo builds?
 
#20 ·
If you're doing the NA thing still, you probably don't need the aftermarket radiator if your cooling system is fully functional.

Didn't see a long tube 4-2-1 header on the list... lol why not?

Get a tuneable ECU, real time eprom will give you the flexibility you need to max out your setup far better than a mail order ecu ever could.


Turbo's are neat... But its so hard to keep the build small, esp when you're gonna end up with a built motor capable of so much more than the origional budget had been planned for. IE; will quickly go from a bottom mount T25 setup w/ SR parts to a top mount T3/T04E 57trim .68 a/r or bigger. Maybe a T60-1 or something... then it kinda snowballs lol.
 
#25 ·
How much would I be looking to spend if I removed the engine, took it to a shop (with the new parts supplied) and asked them to build it?

Because I'd rather have it done sooner than later, I don't have much time on my hands.
 
#26 ·
That depends on the shop, go down to what ever shop your looking at to do the work and ask them

Tell them Nissan 240SX KA24DE
It's a 2.4 4 Cyl.
Cast Iron Block
Aluminum Head
Dual Cam
How much...
 
#27 ·
n/a is fun but it depends on your intentions for the car. my car is a drift slut now. (formula D legal) and my n/a ka is starting to hold me back at local comps cause its hard to keep up with turbo guys. i know not everybody is into drifting but its something to think about. the mani you picked out isnt work the money for an n/a motor. you money will be better spent in other goodies since its not boosted the huge chamber is gonna drop you lower end torque and thats what makes n/a motors so fun. if you run single cam pistons be ready to get valve reliefs cut in the pistons cause a 248/248 cam setup is pushing it on clearance. a full port job on the factory intake mani and head will make a huge difference. 4-2-1 header is a must. i would go with nothing more then 330cc injectors and a 255 fuel pump. you wont make enough power to max those out. and there is alot of little things you can do like light weight flywheel, one piece aluminum driveshaft, electric water pump, and crank scrapper/ windage trays will also help out a lot. but if your looking for cheap power n/a is not the way to go. n/a motors are more of a novelty item they are rare and quick but by no means are they fast.

edit: cams are gonna be the main thing on a n/a motor. brian crower are junk for n/a my buddys stage 1 cams actually made his motor slower untill about 4700 which on a ka sucks. the best bet for cams are PDM they make n/a specific cams. they have the staggered cut cam lobes to simulate a (variable cam duration) its a cool setup but they are $$$