I dont want to go down a V8 path :thumbsdow

As far as the swap goes, I think that a VG30DE swap would be easier and cheaper but I think that you would probably be better off with the VQ35DE swap. You aren't gonna make a lot of power with a VG without FI or spray. The VQ is an aluminum block/head engine whereas the VG is a iron block/aluminum head. I'm not sure if you want more weight or less on the front end with a drift car but those are the facts.

 

Know that I wasnt dissing V8s haha I just dont want one.

 

VQ is actually easier, the VG's bigger and leaves little to no room left where with the VQ you still have some what of an engine bay lol

 

True, the VG is bigger than the VQ but I've looked at my NA Z's empty engine bay and I've also looked at DropTeam21's empty engine bay. That being said they look very, very similar. I never took any measurements or anything but I would be willing to bet that a NA VG would go into the 240's engine bay quite easily. I do admit, however, that I have not looked at a 350Z's empty engine bay or engine in person.

 

It'll fit, but IIRC you need to use a certain Brake Boost because the VG will interfere w/ the MC

that and changing the plugs are just ridiculous lol

 

Working on my NA Z was terrible, then I just had to go out and buy a TT! :beer2:

 

just buy a Z if you want a v6..ahhaa..i'll go with the 3.5 since the 3.0 are just weak without the TT...

 

Look into the VQ35DE wiring nightmare before you make a choice.... The NATS system is a pain in the ass.

 

Ive heard about that. I havent really looked into the wiring. I dont know where to look if I were to look into it haha :scratch:

 

Wiring is actually quite simple. There are many places where you can have both NATS and BCM flashed out of the ECU. Though many folk have just used an aftermarket ecu to have their engines running. Downside to that is no VVL so there is a power loss.

You won't find much VQ info here. I suggest heading over to vq666.com and join the forums. Though it's a new forum there are folks who have completed and in progress VQ swaps on that site with tons of information. Bardabe Performance is SoCal's main VQ swap specialist and is currently working on a CARB legal VQ swap.

 

Yeah, I know you aren't dissing V8s. It's just I found it a little odd that you want NA power but aren't interested in a V8, know what I'm saying?

 

Oh, ya I get you. But thing is I use to be into NA B series and K serious Honda motors. (Dont make a whole lot of power) the only acception is the ORiginal K20a from japan. But Ive always been into All motor builds period. I like turbo dont get me wrong. But something about making high revving engines and no power adders.

 

Have you looked into the LS Series?

 

U mean an LS honda block with a Vtec head? If so ya lol

 

lol, no.

LS1/LS2/LS3/LS6/LS7......

 

lol, no.

LS1/LS2/LS3/LS6/LS7......

oh hahaha my bad. And Im not a V8 guy at all lol

 

I see, figured I'd suggest it. I dont mind V8's but Im not really in favor of sticking an American Muscle V8 in a Japanese Sport Compact. But I'll stick a VH45 in there any day...

 

LSx > VH45

 

just go with a VQ

forget about the VG

 

just go with a VQ, forget about the VG

I concur, plus since you are willing to spend a lot of money to get it in I would also look into the CARB legal VQ swap. That way, you're good to go.

 

CARB Legal VQ swap? I'm now officially interested haha.

 

Folks are working on it, but money is holding them back at the moment. I'm hoping it happens soon as I too have the itch for a VQ, I just won't be a guinea pig for it.

The swap is actually really easy, but most folk have been running a standalone and deleting a lot of the emissions components. Pretty much cheating. Though, now a few shops are able to reflash ECUs and remove the BCM and NATS bullshit so that you can run the stock ECU and keep the VVL working.

Visit vq666.com for more info and a growing forum.

 

Folks are working on it, but money is holding them back at the moment. I'm hoping it happens soon as I too have the itch for a VQ, I just won't be a guinea pig for it.

The swap is actually really easy, but most folk have been running a standalone and deleting a lot of the emissions components. Pretty much cheating. Though, now a few shops are able to reflash ECUs and remove the BCM and NATS bullshit so that you can run the stock ECU and keep the VVL working.

Visit vq666.com for more info and a growing forum.

Ill have to check that out. Where are places I can get the ecu reflashed?

 

Mazworx makes an adapter that's in production. You mate it to the Z32 transmission.

 

Can you get me more info on that?

 

Rob, I gave you the jist of it and the site of an up and coming VQ forum. Do research. Information is more than available.

VH is not worth it considering the aftermarket the VQ has and how even basic bolt ons release quite a bit of power. It's a serious contender to the LSX engines when considering "best bang for the buck."

 

Rob, I gave you the jist of it and the site of an up and coming VQ forum. Do research. Information is more than available.

VH is not worth it considering the aftermarket the VQ has and how even basic bolt ons release quite a bit of power. It's a serious contender to the LSX engines when considering "best bang for the buck."

Alright thanks a bunch.

And I agree.

 

The VK would be a lot harder because of the transmission issue. No one has mated a trans to it yet (other than racing applications like the new GTR with a VK). The VK is a much beastlier motor, but the VH will safely rev to about 7500 before valve float, and with new springs and retainers it will hit 8000 easy... which is AMAZING in a V8.

 

Would be an incredible engine project. Maybe someday.. :yummy

 

That's going to be what I put into my (when I get it) 240z. Such a beautiful engine for a beautiful car haha. It's a beast of a combination too! Hopefully by then there will be a decently doable ITB setup... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

 

The Vk, or Vh?? lol

 

Hmmm Guess that makes sense.

 

Corvette V8 Comparison

Both LS1 and LS6 w/manual trans = 497.2 lbs. Hot Rod was off by 67.2 lbs according to the site above.

The LS1 with T56 = 609lbs w/out exhaust manifolds. The T56 came in at 130lbs which would = 479 for the LS1 in the pic. With the exhaust manifolds installed, 497.2 lbs seems about right.

For reference the KA24DE comes in at 371lbs. 126.2lbs lighter than an LS1.
240SX KA24DE Engine Weight: KA24E / KA24DE Forum: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub

A couple post down the VH45DE link says it weighs just over 500 with the intake manifold on. I would say 550-570 fully dressed, so the LS1 is lighter than the VH45DE.