hmm where did u see this?
sounds awesome

 

dont forget the price.
for about 80% of us that is an important detail

 

i would rather destroke the engine than make it bigger

 

i would rather destroke the engine than make it bigger

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i would rather destroke the engine than make it bigger

:iwithsupe

 

Did I miss something here? Destroke it? I am not understanding. I would think stroking the KA24, forging it and applying a nice size turbo would spank the shit out of the SR20. Or I am still thinking in the world of my LS1 Trans Am about stroking the engine. Please explain.

 

exactly, and why would you want to destroke it when if you stroke it you get stronger pistons at any compression? I think chickenhawk is on to something.

 

if u already didnt know..a stock 7psi KA-T can already spank a stock SR at stock boost!

KA-Ts can run mid 13s at 7psi..its been proven..look at Evil s14 on zilvia.net

stock SRs run 14s high 13s


by destroking it..you can have smoother revs and can possible rev higher.

remember building an engine ISNT ALWAYS about power

 

Sounds awesome. Where do I sign up?

 

if u already didnt know..a stock 7psi KA-T can already spank a stock SR at stock boost!

KA-Ts can run mid 13s at 7psi..its been proven..look at Evil s14 on zilvia.net

stock SRs run 14s high 13s

You really can't say that, it matters what setup you have on them. There are alot of stock SR's that are running mid-low 13's. I know of one that ran a 12.8 by just boosting it and getting some good suspension and tires (drag radials). They are both good motors, but if I had to choose between the two then I would go with the SR. Fully build either motor and then they will probably achieve the same power and reliability. It's all prefrance.

 

You really can't say that, it matters what setup you have on them. There are alot of stock SR's that are running mid-low 13's. I know of one that ran a 12.8 by just boosting it and getting some good suspension and tires (drag radials). They are both good motors, but if I had to choose between the two then I would go with the SR. Fully build either motor and then they will probably achieve the same power and reliability. It's all prefrance.

werd.

if u like it, build on it. if u dont like it. dont build on it.

 

I am understanding the SR comes with forged internals since it is a factory turbo. Does the KA come with any forged internals? If so, that will help me make my mind. I can't decide to build my KA or buy an SR and build it. I am not confused, just undecided. I know the engines both in factory stock are great with the SR being faster of the two. But with some parts and turbo I think for the same dollar amount, the KA would produce more ponies. Any comments welcome. I am interested in the KA Stroker kit, please more info.....

 

Now I see why you guys are saying 'need more information'. Go here:
Stroker Kits Coming Soon
Don't know if the link will work (the wholeite won't load on my computer). It says that the kit is coming 2003, you may need to call for for information.

 

Why did it get moved to the S13 section? The S14's have the KA motor, too.

 

SRs and KAs have the same amount of forged internals...crank and rods. Pistons are cast in both cases.

And stroking a KA (100mm stroke) would be awesome...bump the displacement up to about 2.55L with a slight bore increase and you'd have that long stroke to really spool up a big turbo. If you destroke it...you loose displacement. To make up for that power loss with revs, you'll need to be a lot more careful with head work, cams, etc.

Dennis

 

^^^
As the old saykng goes 'theres no replacement for displacement.

 

^^^
As the old saykng goes 'theres no replacement for displacement.

ohh, but there is! It's called forced induction. I hate that saying and I totally disagree. Yes it is nice to have the displacement, but you do not need it. That is a statement made from hick ass domestics that think that imports can't make any power. Well they are wrong and so is everyone else that believes that. I have seen 1.8 honda get into the 10's, and 2.0's in the 9's. There are so much things that play a roll in power and times.

 

it sounds awesome to me.

 

the replacement for displacement: TECHNOLOGY also... the stroke on a stock ka is almost too long for a 4 cyl motor... it can't rev... mine is fully built and i won't take it past 7500... the speed the piston is moving just before tdc and bdc at the upper 7ooo rpm's is close to that of an f1 engine at 12,ooo rpm's.. just imagine, it is at that speed before it runs into a flame front of combustion or compresses againts the rod/crank/main cap and is thrown the other way... multiple times a second... that my friends is why a stroker kit is not cool for a ka ben

 

i do agree. but the kit does look promising. we will see.

 

the replacement for displacement: TECHNOLOGY also... the stroke on a stock ka is almost too long for a 4 cyl motor... it can't rev... mine is fully built and i won't take it past 7500... the speed the piston is moving just before tdc and bdc at the upper 7ooo rpm's is close to that of an f1 engine at 12,ooo rpm's.. just imagine, it is at that speed before it runs into a flame front of combustion or compresses againts the rod/crank/main cap and is thrown the other way... multiple times a second... that my friends is why a stroker kit is not cool for a ka ben

However, displacement + technology = 0wN4g3 (or something resembling "ownage"). Anyways, the replacement for both the SR and KA is stroked even more (QR25 = 89x 100).

Please don't say it CAN'T rev just because you're unwilling to rev it. With the right cam(s), it sure as hell CAN rev.

The beauty of a stroker kit is you don't NEED to rev the shit out of it. You get a much broader powerband instead of a peaky motor.

 

:iamwithst If the QR25DE is a 2.5L 4-cyl., why would the KA be bad if you stroke it to that displacement also. With a motor that already doesn't need to rev like a Indy Cart Car to make power, why would you need it to rev that high if you turbo the KA. With that much displacement, I'm sure that it will spool a big turbo.

 

I think we need a guinea pig to try the kit...

 

I think we need a guinea pig to try the kit...

Calling all n00b's!!!! Someone can donate there car to me and I'll do it. :heyhey