they are the same exact motors, except for the ka24E in the earliest 240's.

 

Yeah, you should be able to put a S14 KA24DE in your S13 no problem.
The only difference is the change to OBDII.

 

^ unless you get a ODBI S14 KA24DE

 

And what are the chances of that again?

 

What the fuck is batman carrying? boaconchicken

 

Hahahaha...
I didn't notice that before.
Its from that thing w/ the black chick w/ the fat ass photoshop thread.
I never saw that one.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673824&page=1&pp=25

 

Yes...lmao ......that's great. Maybe I could just put her in my hatchback and call it a day. Forget the engine swap. I could put a "powered by Popeyes" sticker on the windshield as well. Anyway...now that I know what ODBII and I mean let me ask you all this. The engine in question is a 97. So it's ODBII for sure. And really this what my original question was all about. If I get the engine and take off all the sensored stuff....ie fuel rail, intake, distributor, exhaust, egr ...etc etc can I put all my S13 (ODBI) peripherals on the 97 long block and expect it to run decently with my ODBI electronics?

I realize there are internal differences notably the cams are hotter in mine (which I can also swap) I just really need a good bottom end. I just don't want to get this thing and realize the bolt pattern is different for the tranny bolt up for example. Or the intakes have a different port design... that kind of stuff. Please someone...anyone...that has done this please let me know. Thanks in advance.

 

Yeah, you should be able to put a S14 KA24DE in your S13 no problem.
The only difference is the change to OBDII.

Your right, however it depends on which year you have...a KA24DE is a direct swap into all chassis years however on the 89/90 years with the KA24E you would need the power steering lines from a DOHC car. Unless of course you don't want power steering. I believe that's the only difference, please someone post if more is needed.

 

And what are the chances of that again?

An early 95 Zenki

 

What the fuck is batman carrying? boaconchicken

Thats the black chick that got owned on the bike
We have a thread in the OT section

 

Your right, however it depends on which year you have...a KA24DE is a direct swap into all chassis years however on the 89/90 years with the KA24E you would need the power steering lines from a DOHC car. Unless of course you don't want power steering. I believe that's the only difference, please someone post if more is needed.

There is no howevers.
I was providing him with information.
I knew he had a 93 S13, as he said that in his first post.

An early 95 Zenki

Actually, FAST told me more then that just right now.
It says there was eight different ECUs for the zenki, excluding the auto ECUs.
It can't find any illustrations of the OBD/II wiring though.

Yes...lmao ......that's great. Maybe I could just put her in my hatchback and call it a day. Forget the engine swap. I could put a "powered by Popeyes" sticker on the windshield as well. Anyway...now that I know what ODBII and I mean let me ask you all this. The engine in question is a 97. So it's ODBII for sure. And really this what my original question was all about. If I get the engine and take off all the sensored stuff....ie fuel rail, intake, distributor, exhaust, egr ...etc etc can I put all my S13 (ODBI) peripherals on the 97 long block and expect it to run decently with my ODBI electronics?

I realize there are internal differences notably the cams are hotter in mine (which I can also swap) I just really need a good bottom end. I just don't want to get this thing and realize the bolt pattern is different for the tranny bolt up for example. Or the intakes have a different port design... that kind of stuff. Please someone...anyone...that has done this please let me know. Thanks in advance.

Yeah, just using the head, block, ect.
All of that stuff is the same.
It would run just like the S14 engine ran, provided your electronics from the S13 up to the task.
I belive the bellhousing on a S14 is slightly bigger?
FAST is saying that the rear plate changes between 93 and 94, then it stays the same until its demise.
Im not too sure on this one, wait for someone more knowlagable to chime in.
Of course until then, alot of people are just going to say get a S14 trans.

 

Thanks for all your help guys.

 

so the s13 cams are hotter? Thats cool, i didn't know that

 

oh yeah there are 8 diff one

you got the OBD-1&2
which have an Cali. spec auto and manual trans ECU
and a Federal spec auto & manual ECU so yeah thats 8

Forgot where I saw this but thats what I remember

 

No, there would be 14 different ECUs including the auto ECUs.
8 manual trans and 6 autos.