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Radiator Size?

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#1 ·
I've finally given in to temptation and am going to buy an electric fan. For simplicity and cost, I'm just going to run a single generic, high cfm fan. I just need to know what is the biggest fan that will fit on the stock radiator? I know a 12" fan will fix, but will a 14"?
 
#5 ·
theres lots of junkyard options that would save you lots of money...do a search and youll find alot...in running a 2 speed ford taurus fan and im very happy with it. it even comes with a shroud that fits the rad perfectly..altima fans work too....aftermarket fans are kind of a waste of money but each to there own.
 
#7 ·
I've thought about getting Stanza fans but decided against it for several reasons.

1) A new fan has a much higher chance of working correctly than a 10 year old Stanza setup.

2) A single fan will be a little easier to wire up.

3) A generic single fan should fix with mounting straps should fit with zero modifications.

And since the fan will be purchased off of ebay I know it won't cost much, if any more than the Stanza, or other stock dual fans I've seen on there.
 
#8 ·
dsmart said:
theres lots of junkyard options that would save you lots of money...do a search and youll find alot...in running a 2 speed ford taurus fan and im very happy with it. it even comes with a shroud that fits the rad perfectly..altima fans work too....aftermarket fans are kind of a waste of money but each to there own.
Are you actually serious? A "aftermarket" fan will flow much more CFM than any stock fan of the same size. You also act like new electric fans are expensive. I got mine for $75 and it flows more than 2400CFM you find a stock fan that can flow that cfm and I will eat my shirt. $75 IMO is not a lot of money compared to what it will protect against. If you do however consider $75 expensive then you might want to find another hobby...
 
#9 ·
DLSracing said:
Are you actually serious? A "aftermarket" fan will flow much more CFM than any stock fan of the same size. You also act like new electric fans are expensive. I got mine for $75 and it flows more than 2400CFM you find a stock fan that can flow that cfm and I will eat my shirt. $75 IMO is not a lot of money compared to what it will protect against. If you do however consider $75 expensive then you might want to find another hobby...

"Probably one of the biggest mods that many 4x4er's want to do at one point or another is to upgrade the factory cooling system. One of the options available to us is to replace the stock mechanical fan with an electric one. Very high-power electric fans are expensive, so many hot-rodders, rockcrawlers, and general off-roaders have turned to what is considered by many to be the .44 Magnum of the Electric Fan World. The Ford 8C607 2 speed fan. This fan is found in 90-95 Ford Taurus and Lincoln cars with the 3.8L V6 engine. It is also known as the Lincoln Mark VIII fan. It is identifiable by three wires coming from the fan itself." (substitute 4x4er's for 240er's)

quoted from a website i found while trying to find the cfm of the ford fan..it is a two speed fan, on high it is said to pull between 2000-2200cfm. which is more than sufficient to cool the sr20det even with the stock rad. One of the main benefits is that it comes with a shroud that covers the rad almost perfectly which allow it to get the most out of its cfm. im pretty sure that almost all aftermarket ones do not come with a shroud which makes all that cfm less effective (the 300-400 more).

as far as the cost goes i dont consider $75 alot of money for a worthy upgrade..like a hks wastegate actuator...or some rocker arm stoppers.

why pay $75 when you can pay $20-$30 for something that will do the same job.

i think you overpaid for your fan, end of story

would you like some fries with that shirt
 
#11 ·
I finally went out and measured my radiator since the time has come (this week) to purchase the fan. I don't seen how a 14" fan would fit. The radiator fin area seemed less than 14" to me. I don't know, maybe I didn't geat an accurate measurement with all the crap in the engine bay. I really want a 14" now since I read on one of the electric fan manufacture's pages that a 4 cyl needs 2000 cfm and 12" fans only pull about 1450 cfm max.
 
#12 ·
dsmart said:
"Probably one of the biggest mods that many 4x4er's want to do at one point or another is to upgrade the factory cooling system. One of the options available to us is to replace the stock mechanical fan with an electric one. Very high-power electric fans are expensive, so many hot-rodders, rockcrawlers, and general off-roaders have turned to what is considered by many to be the .44 Magnum of the Electric Fan World. The Ford 8C607 2 speed fan. This fan is found in 90-95 Ford Taurus and Lincoln cars with the 3.8L V6 engine. It is also known as the Lincoln Mark VIII fan. It is identifiable by three wires coming from the fan itself." (substitute 4x4er's for 240er's)

quoted from a website i found while trying to find the cfm of the ford fan..it is a two speed fan, on high it is said to pull between 2000-2200cfm. which is more than sufficient to cool the sr20det even with the stock rad. One of the main benefits is that it comes with a shroud that covers the rad almost perfectly which allow it to get the most out of its cfm. im pretty sure that almost all aftermarket ones do not come with a shroud which makes all that cfm less effective (the 300-400 more).

as far as the cost goes i dont consider $75 alot of money for a worthy upgrade..like a hks wastegate actuator...or some rocker arm stoppers.

why pay $75 when you can pay $20-$30 for something that will do the same job.

i think you overpaid for your fan, end of story

would you like some fries with that shirt

I still would not use a fan which you have no clue as to the ability of it. Also the shroud is null since I perfer a pusher fan which I also have to have since the RB won't take a shroud. Also the fan I have is very large compared to a smaller 12-14" that go for much less. You can get a 14" for under $50.00 that will push more than enough CFM. So when you think about the pricing compared to the product you will come out ahead if you buy quality not junk...
 
#13 ·
Umm I don't know what you are smokin, but a Ford fan is better quality IMHO than any aftermarket fan. Think of this... Who is likely to test their products more? A large car company or some fly by night aftermarket company that threw a motor and some fan blades together....

When your 75 dollar aftermarket fan motor goes out and you end up bying 3 more over a 2 year period, I bet you'll switch to a Ford fan...

And who says you can't buy a new Ford fan from Ford? You don't have to go to the junkyard....
 
#14 ·
I think that a new fan would be much more dependable than a used fan. You also get a warranty. So instead of paying to replace your used fans, you can returns the new aftermarket high quality fan if it brakes.

There is aftermarket high quality (The $75 fan written about above).
Then there is aftermarket chepo crap low quality (Which Ford is better than).

I wouldn't go as far as to say that Ford radiator fans are better than all aftermarket fans, including high quality companies like Nismo, koyo, or whoever makes fans.
 
#16 ·
this is a good thread. i wish it were titled better so more people would take a look at it. there are some good arguments on both sides.

the ford fan is not junk. it is a production fan that went through vigorous testing by a large corporation and has proven itself. this fan was trusted for use in more vehicles than every aftermarket fan combined for the last 20 years. to think that ford (even though i dont like ford) would use a sub-standard product which plays such a crucial roll in a vehicle is being pretty ignorant to the facts.

the thing with fans is either they work or they dont. its not like buying a junkyard turbo or pistons. its gonna work %100 until it doesnt work at all. it is well built and looks alot beefier than almost all aftermarket units ive ever seen

if youve seen the fan in person and sized it up on your rad than you will realise how perfectly it fits. seriously, you have to snip off 2 plastic tabs on the shroud and its like it was made for the car.

im not knocking aftermarket fans. they are very nice looking, low profile, and do a fine job.

anytime i can use a good product and save money at the same time i usually go for that. if spending more money makes you feel more comfortable with driving your engine hard then by all means spend more money and get a fancy looking fan.

but coming from someone who uses the ford fan ill tell you that i would trust it babysitting my kids (if i had kids...im only 21)

i bet that $200 nismo strut bar makes your car twice as stiff as my $25 one
 
#17 ·
dsmart said:
this is a good thread. i wish it were titled better so more people would take a look at it.
Well it was titled to fit my question of what's the biggist fan that will fit a stock radiator....but now all the thread has done is confuse me even more about what fan I should buy. :eek:

So I guess the real answer is whatever fan you feel like. I've found that people using the little 600 cfm a/c fan alone have no problems despite the fact it doesn't pull as much as the the stock mechanical fan, while aftermarket companies are claiming a 4 cyl needs 2000 cfm. As for the fan type...generic aftermarkets fit easier, but don't cover the radiator as well as some oe fans, while depending on what brand you purchase and if you purchase new, neither has a price advantage.
 
#18 ·
dsmart -
What exactly has to be modified on this taurus fan to make it fit? and how did you mount it?

I figured that this fan is the same price basically as the generic 12" fans w/o shrouds I've been looking at on ebay so I might as well consider it an option now as well.
 
#19 ·
i tried to post another pic by it said that the forums quota was reached??? anyways if you look on the pic i posted of the fan on this thread you will see 3 tabs on the left side of the fan. all i did was cut them off with knife, it took about 2 minutes. i have my fan held on by 3 ty raps on each side and one on the top and bottom. i drilled small holes in the shroud and then fed the ty raps through the rad and tightened them equally. you couldnt rip that baby off if you tried.

the fan pulls 2200cfm on high speed and im not sure about low speed but im guessing around 1500cfm. ive never needed high speed but its nice to know with the flick of a switch its there.

im not trying to tell you or anybody how to spend your money. im just trying to let everyone know that there is in my opinion a better alternative. if you do decide to spend the $20 on this fan i can quarantee you will be more than satisfied. ill post a pic of it installed on my rad when the forum will let me.
good luck
 
#21 ·
im using one from a 95 taraus. im pretty sure any year of that same body style is the same ie (mercury mystic) i forget what the last year was but im gonna guess 1996 was prolly the last. any fan that has the right dimensions will work. like the altima fan or maybe even a sentra.

the reason for using the ford fan is it fits the best and pulls more cfm than any oem fan that will fit. also it tends to be very cheap cause there are so many out there.
 
#23 ·
the crown vic has a clutch fan and a electric fan. the electric fan doesnt look the same from the pictures ive seen. also the lincoln mark VIII has similar fan to the taraus but im not sure if its the same part number.

if your thinking about going this route than the taraus fan is your best bet.

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