Tail end turbo? is this like a Remote mount setup ?

 

it is yes.

I think they are great, except for the fact it is easier to steal your turbo. They have been noted to bring in some nice horsepower numbers and quick track times. This also allows for better cooling under the hood. I think they are great, just not my cup of tea for my 240. I want to show my turbo off from the front, allthough a lot of people may start seeing just the rear! lol.

 

meh, one article I read puts the LS1 spool time at 3000rpms... now drop the displacement from 5.7 to 2.4...

get a smaller turbo and it'd work better, but eh. i'd rather have it under the hood.

 

I think they're garbage, but not in the low quality sense (i hear it's a well put together kit). You'll never match the efficiency of a traditional setup if you're running miles of piping. The kits also rely on oil pumps to pull the oil out of the turbos and send it back to the motor. If you have the space AT ALL, you could make a lot more power and still keep response with a simpler rig.

 

go ahead and try it out...it seems like a bad idea, as the air coming to the turbo has lost a lot of speed and heat to help spin that turbo up....and its probably a bad idea with a motor smaller than 3 and a half litres

you also might want to run a skyjacker kit

 

from what i understand..the exhaust gasses downstream from the manifold (Where the remote mount would go) Are cooler and denser

you would get less lag (Your turbo more quickly reaches optimul rpm to produce boost) But at the cost of boost response , which would be the actual delay from giving accelerator input, to the engine recieving the increased boost. Some people confuse the two and use LAG in place of boost response.

So thought id just put it out there

 

rear mount kits are mostly for v8 guys with a tight fitting under hood area.

 

Also they dont need as much boost because they already have it.

 

there a great idea....if done right. ive seen 1psi drop and the temps are soooo much cooler. this was on a full custom kit and well on a vette

 

^i see uve been watchin horsepower tv lol.

 

YES thats where it was off of. i was thinking it was on ls1 tech haha

 

lol yeah they show it there and its really because they have no room that they relocate it in the rear. with 4 bangers i think it will come cheaper and more efficient to install a normal turbo setup

 

That setup is wayyyy inefficient. You want the exhaust gas coming out of the manifold to hit the turbine as hot as possible. Hot exhaust gas has more volume then cold gas, so it will spin the turbine faster and sooner.

 

Um...actually you are wrong...

The colder the exhaust gas is, the denser it is, and the faster it spools your turbo.

"Volume " has nothing to do with it, same with aspirating your engine. Theres a reason they use "MASS air flow calculations" and not "VOLUME air flow calculations"

 

lol as if we didnt have enough shit packed underneath the back of our cars.... i could barely find a place to drill through my trunk for the battery box lol.

yeah the sts kit has been around for a few years and shwag is dead on right. Even if you ceramic coated the entire piping, you would lose significant amount of thermal energy and the denser cold air would not be able to give you the response you would need in a I-4 setup. On a V8 they dont care because they make 350 ft/lbs at like 2k rpms so response time is pretty irrelavant to them.

 

^hes right. when gas cools down it becomes more dense, meaning in the same size tubing it loses velocity since it has less pressure. the hotter gas is the more it will expand. when it expands it will have a higher velocity because of the pressure because it has less space to play around. its only choice it to get out the fastest way possible.

 

yeah thats tru.but the point is for the cars the setup is mostyl used on it will still be an badass setup.and its cheap.

 

Hold up here....Ive seen in person some v-8 cars make some serious power with this setup in person. FC customs is a lingenfelter dealer here in my town. They constantly crank out some serious cars with these setups granted there not 4cyl. It would really be kind of cool to see how this would work on a ka.. DOnt you guys think the turbo would have a longer lasting life?

 

Yeah okay, it might last longer because its not as hot. I dont even think you would need an intercooler with this kind of setup because the length of the pipe is so long and the temperature of the gas is almost ambient by that point anyway.

All Im saying, is that its much easier to pressurize an exhust manifold then it is to pressurize and entire 3" exhaust by means of exhaust gas.