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the 'should i get an s14?' question

4.6K views 66 replies 21 participants last post by  DrDubbleB  
#1 ·
has it got potential?
i don't know too much about this car, and i'm looking into it right now, but if i do get one, i want the s14-s15 conversion and i'll pretty much be satisfied with that and maybe an sr20 drop.

okay..ya'll probably a little biased in here, but how do you think an integ would match up with a 240?

these are the two cars i'm trying to decide between.

thanks~
 
#5 ·
If you want a reliable car that not many people know about get a 240. If you drop an sr in it you will be dominating the tegs. If you want a car that every other kid in town has get a teg. :)
 
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#6 ·
If you just want the S15 lights you know (I cant believe I am suggesting this) you can get yourself a Teg...you know why? Leave the real cars to real ppl who want them...

The 240SX is not a show car...it's a car that is made to be driven...sure it has great looks...but in the heart of the matter it is a car that has a strong motor, is light, nimble and good looking. The Teg will have the same pretty much (minus the good looks out of the box) and will have a bigger aftermarket...so save yourself a headache and our headaches...if you want a show car

If you want performance...then you have lots of options w/the S14...KA-T (which I strongly recommend) and SR or even RB

Let us know what you think
 
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#8 ·
old school tegs are nasty

and yeah, i'm into performance and shit, but i think a beautiful car is something to be proud of. And i want to be proud of my car.

Some of you guys made a pretty convincing argument up there..

the reason i didn't want an integ was because it was so friggin played out.

anyway...unless any of you have anything else to say, i think i'll go with the 240...
BUT
can you guys gimme specs on some of these engines?
the RB is sorta expensive, isn't it? and it takes some rearranging in the chassis, right?
yeah...specs for the sr20 would be nice~:D
 
#9 ·
If you want SR specs goto heavythrottle.com and you will find all the specs you want.
 
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#10 ·
thanks


and...yeah, i know that there are s13-s15 conversion kits too, but i don't like the s13 too much.
i don't go strictly by looks but a mixture of both...so, yeah.

i know that the s14 drives well, my friend has one. I just wanted to know about its potential and if there were any complete rear and front kits to s15ify it.
 
#12 ·
WIsh I had the cash for it... Why are you selling?
 
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#13 ·
because it's too slow, it costs too much to make it fast, i've had it for a year and a half now (owned 5 cars already, i'm 22).........there's a bunch of reasons.
 
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tnord said:
because it's too slow, it costs too much to make it fast, i've had it for a year and a half now (owned 5 cars already, i'm 22).........there's a bunch of reasons.
I beg to differ...turboing the KA, add rods and pistons, spray 75 shot, youd have a fast ass car.....and it doesnt cost as much as some of the other ppl who spend over 5 grand for cosmetics alone on their cars..whereas you can keep the car very clean..im sure alot of ppl will disagree with me on this one but: you really dont need rims if you want to go fast, unless you are purchasing light rims...speed is not going to cost you as much as you think...now if you are thinking of something like putting in an RB26det and all then ofcourse you are going to be spending a sh*t load of money because thats a huge project to make the engine fit. BUt i guess its all opinion and depends if you just want speed or looks...i think if you have the 98, it looks fine, no strawberry conversions is okie, no rims, get good tires, turbo it or put in an sr20det ( your choice):cool:
 
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#15 ·
*sigh* where to start?

"turboing the KA, add rods and pistons, spray 75 shot, youd have a fast ass car....."

1) and how much would all that cost.....well over $4000, yeah, real cheap. :rolleyes:
2) speed does not = straight line. to control the completely unnecessary power that would produce would require new suspension, and larger tires. add another $2500 or so to that $4000 i just spent. gee, $6500, i could almost build a spec miata with that much money, i think the choice is obvious.

"you really dont need rims if you want to go fast, unless you are purchasing light rims"

no, you don't need rims, but you do need big enough rubber to control the power you make. what are you supposed to do, throw some 275's on 6.5'' wide wheels??? :basher

"speed is not going to cost you as much as you think..."

oh really? do tell what it would cost then.
 
#16 ·
dude my sr20det is going to be 2500 and with installation is 3000. Any upgrades to that will be less than 2000..like i said..its all a matter of opinion...YOu have to be a good shopper and look for what is out there..and if you call my bs..you can call the shop in my sig. And he does great work on engine swaps, hes done Type R engines, turbo, SRs, etc...Im sorrie you spent that much on your car and i did say you need good tires, which you forgot to quote me..and you said speed does not equal straight line? well if you are tryin to go that fast on the highway and weaving in and out or whatnot, id better make sure not to be in your way since i cant stand ppl who would drive recklessly and cause accidents....and once more..


this is all an opinion...some will spend alot of money and some wont spend as much as others..
 
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owned? are you kidding me?? :basher

i can't believe i'm actually going to justify this post with a response........but anyway

as soon as you get that swap done for $500, including labor, rental car, fluids, shipping costs, and various other parts that go into doing a quality engine swap, you let me know, i'll eat my hat. if this is a personal friend or any other association like that, it doesn't count.

in your previous post you mentioned turboing the KA and nitrous and all that other crap, which would be hideously expensive. nonetheless, i won't swap. too many PITA items to deal with, especially in MN, it's not logical.

"i'm sorry you spent that much on your car"

wtf??? where did i say anything about how much money i spent on mine?


"and i did say you need good tires, which you forgot to quote me.."

there ya go, i quoted you. and i agreed with you that larger/better tires would be needed. i also stated (if you would have actually read it) that in order to control that extra power you're going to need tires way too big to fit on the stock wheels, thus the need to buy wheels.

"well if you are tryin to go that fast on the highway and weaving in and out or whatnot, id better make sure not to be in your way since i cant stand ppl who would drive recklessly and cause accidents....and once more.."

once again, speed does not = going fast on the highway. speed does not = straight line. speed = all around performance, not just 300+hp penis enlarger. you have fun with your 300hp and stock suspension with 215 tires.

you want more reasons not to do this or are you done???
 
#20 ·
tnord said:


you want more reasons not to do this or are you done???
Dont get upset, i told you it was all opinion..you had your share with what this car meant with pricing and performance, and ive had my share what the pricing and potential this car might have...i just didnt want someone trying to convince that this car was slow and expensive....its all about searching....IMO, this IS an inexpensive project car and im sure alot of people will contest to this, ask Ricky Chu, ask Duy, ask anyone of those guys whos built a fast ass KA or done a swap...sure they *may* have spent alot of money, but they wouldve spent more trying to build other cars...and you say a Miata wouldve been cheaper???? Have you seen the turbo for the miata??? even if its a good autocrossing car because of its handling performance, the miata can be expensive. Their turbo fro the 98s (in comparison to the 98 240, since we both have 98s)are roughly is $4,800.00, suspension: stage I 550.00, stage II is 895.00, springs 219.00, shocks are 89.00 frt 89.00 rear..okie i see our numbers are adding up and maybe over so far...see i know about miatas and learning about them as well bc i know a couple of ppl who love their miatas and do a heck of turboing on it..o forgot to also mention how much the 98 miata would be as well...starting price of $8,800-11,500..not quite a cheap project car there...but anyways..just wanted to let the ppl see both sides of the story...to end this:

Its all an opinion and its okie to want a different project car but all cars are roughly going to cost the same most of the times to boost. So please dont get mad because this isnt the Fight Club area and im not upset at your opinions, just wanted to express my own opinion and yes I do appreciate Mazdas as well. I wanted an RX7 as another car but we all know thats a bit pricey but who knows, maybe ill get one....:D
 
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#21 ·
you don't know what a Spec Miata is, so don't try and tell me how much it costs.

1990 beat up Miata - $3000
Mazda motorsports suspension - $1100
Mazda motorsports exhaust - $110
roll bar - $600
iirc......Jackson Racing intake - $150
tires and wheels - $750
Corbeau Forza - $200
Sparco Harnesses - $250
Proper Identification - $150
Change all fluids, new pads, turn rotors - bout $200
other random repairs - who knows

there are other costs, but from here it depends on how nice you insist the car to be, and how competitive you want to be. Spec Miata HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BOOST.

the problem is that you're leaving out all kinds of other costs associated with boosted that gives you a false sense of pricing. like i said, you get the engine installed for $500, with no other costs, i'll eat my hat.

$500/$70 standard labor charge per hour = about 7 hours. you really think it only takes 7 hours to pull out an engine and install a new one? not to mention that most places do their pricing based on what the book says, not the actual time it takes to get it done.
 
#22 ·
Wait lets not be harsh, can i ask you why you are giving me the prices for the 90 miata????? i wanted to compare the 98 miatas with the 98 S14....ofcourse a 90 miata is gonna be cheaper..so what?? thats not what i was comparing...
 
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#23 · (Edited)
because a Spec Miata is a Spec Miata, doesn't really matter what year you use, that's part of the point with Spec classes.

EDIT: come to think of it, i wasn't even comparing the miata to a 240. i was just saying that for the amount that you suggest speding on modifications, i can build an entire race car; emphasizing the point that making a 240 fast is not cheap.
 
#26 ·
tnord: Have you concidered picking up a 240Z? Like a 71/72? You can pick up one for cheep. Plus with the low weight and the engin options avaiable, you can have your race car.:)
 
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