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TinyT's Project...s13 Coupe...sr20....600hp....full bare bones build

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#1 ·
Im starting my build....

Ive researched it all and am starting it. I just wanted to start a thread about it to keep a digital portfolio of the whole build. so here it goes, info to start, current pics to follow and updates all the time, that is, if anyone cares at all.

Well its another sr20 build, how cliche, but after looking at it all, power is easy to make.

Im starting with a 93' ka24de automatic coupe. I also have a 92' ka24de hatch that is my daily driver.

The Build.....

Motor

Sr20
Gt35r turbo
balanced blueprinted sleeved o ringed built block
arias pistons, eagle h beams
greddy intake
all new pullies, general parts
micropolished, magnafluxed crank
hks step 2 cams
adj, cam gears, comp cam valve springs
port and polish like a mo' fo'
aem ems
1000cc inj
custom turbo manifold
35psi of boost
and all the other goodies

Suspension/Drivetrain
megan racing adj coilovers
custom strut bars
godspeed sway bars
custom links/bars etc.
1.5 way lsd
strong axles...which are good?
300zx tranny with mazqworks conversion or build the sr20 tranny? 300zx will be about 1300$ for the tranny and conversion, could I build the sr that much and have it set up how i want it?
brembo brakes

all new general components

Body
professional paint
shaved marker lights, body lines
silvia conversion?
sealed/coated underbody
blown out rear fenders for some 285's
frame strengthers/ certified chassis

interior
half back cage
no rear seat
custom carpet kit
recaros
autometer gauge cluster
re done headliner/ door panels
alpine system

general...

fuel cell
rear mounted battery
stainless steel lines
proportioning valve

and so on and so forth.......

pics of current progress



my hatch and the project car








thats me, the kid who will have a light wallet for awhile, but I earn the money I make and it makes it so much better to know that I built this car with my cash, no parental funding here!



the first two of many to help on this project

 
#2 ·
well..... first off I must ask.... how much are you thinking about spending? Because what you listed is in excess of $20 grand. And not to be discriminatory, but you look like your 14.

Also that GT35R even with .82 AR will not see 600 whp. It will barely support 500whp (est 15% drivetrain loss).

To me it sounds like you have a lot more research to do along with a reality check, then a small edit to your first build post.

EDIT: Also 285 tires can fit in the rear with the right offset wheels and a moderate fender roll & pull. Remember wheels wide enough to support 285's cost quite a bit too.
 
#47 · (Edited by Moderator)
well..... first off I must ask.... how much are you thinking about spending? Because what you listed is in excess of $20 grand. And not to be discriminatory, but you look like your 14.

Also that GT35R even with .82 AR will not see 600 whp. It will barely support 500whp (est 15% drivetrain loss).

To me it sounds like you have a lot more research to do along with a reality check, then a small edit to your first build post.

EDIT: Also 285 tires can fit in the rear with the right offset wheels and a moderate fender roll & pull. Remember wheels wide enough to support 285's cost quite a bit too.

oh wait you just said it wont ever see 600hp and barely support 500 but now you say it will support over 500. dont go tell people to check your posts because you change your mind about what god of what you want to be everyday.

edit: here we go with the truck motor again....yay, way to show your ignorance and stupidity....child.
keep your posts cleaner if you want to be a part of this forum. there are enough lame/poser fanboy ricers in this community as it is.
-raen419
 
#3 ·
i agree.. the first thing you should think about is getting the car's handling/look the way you want. then going after the engine.. no point if your gonna crash it anyways cause you dont know the car. plus... doing a build with an SR at 600 hp... well, its one of the hardest things to do. you need extremely high quality parts... profesional installation and tuning... as he said.. "upwards of 20g's" i think more like 35-40
 
#4 · (Edited by Moderator)
I just got a crank, head and comp cam valve springs for 500 shipped
a block for 250 shipped
a garret 60-1 turbo for 350 shipped
machine shop is 2500 bucks
coil overs 850
arias pistons and eagle h beams 760. ems. 1500. body..
free minus materials

this thread was just for me to make a journal of my progress
my dad is a fabricator and my buddies arent your typical teen car enthusiasts and im not your typical 17 year old.
the person i bought it from ran the same type of turbo on his car and made 310whp at 6 psi... ill get the numbers im after, and if not ill get a different fricken turbo~!!!
 
#9 ·
ok maybe posting this wasnt the right thing to do because everyone is always negative..
No, everyone is realistic and people on here have first hand experience with building motors. If you don't bother listening to them then your choosing ignorance and are a fool.

if you want ill lay the prices out for you cheif. I just got a crank, head and comp cam valve springs for 500 shipped
Aftermarket or stock?

, a block for 250 shipped
you realize you will most likely need this to be machined and new head bolts (like ARP) and have it resurfaced

and a garret 60-1 turbo for 350 shipped
according to that ebay auction you got it for 610 + shipping... so i'm already throwing the bullshit flag up

, im 17 and what does age have to do with anything. for all you know I could make more than you.
Age matters because you have not yet been exposed to that much in regards of experience compared to some of the 30+ year olds on here that have been working with cars for 15+ years. Personally I'm 18 and Not to be an elitest or a straight up asshole, I almost guarentee you my assets are worth 10 times yours lol.

about the gt35r. the person i bought it from ran the same type of turbo on his car and made 310whp at 6 psi... ill get the numbers im after, and if not ill get a different fricken turbo~!!!
Wow! I'm glad you can read an Ebay description! Ever heard of false advertising. Look closely at the description, he doesn't tell you what car that was on. He could have had the GT35 on a single turbo RX7 at 6 PSI and with bolts on like exhaust and what not could have easily made that power. Or it could have just as easily been on a turbo truck.

If you were gullible enough to think that your car would make 310 hp at 6 psi without even knowing what car he drove... then thats a clear sign to me that you are overlooking a lot.

And the fact that GodlyPolak pointed out is good. Your still a teenager and have very little driving experience, no matter how good you think you are the reality is your a noob on the road.

Also do you plan on doing this build on your lawn? lol.
 
#8 · (Edited by Moderator)
haha so your gonna have a fuel cell and a relocated battery...
you better look into a stoker kit to reach those numbers...you obviously have not researched this enough pal...i can see a possilbe 350whp out of that setup and 35psi hve fun for a week
 
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#10 ·
I cant wait to see your face the first time you hit boost! Talk about a cat walk into a tree....

I could care less if you make $X a month, money doesnt buy experience and I know your young and think your invensible, but thing is....you havent had enough time behind the wheel to drive 600whp around on the streets. Going 0-100rpm in a flick of the gas is just to tempting for younger drivers and I dont care if you have been racing since you were X years old or whatever. I am not hear to flame you, I am glad to see another young gun out to build a nice car, but you need to draw the line somewhere.

Also, with 600hp, its going to be useless unless your drag racing.
 
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#13 ·
beleive me I understand how fast it can be, but thats what I love about the computer. I can set boost to 2 psi and run that for however long until I feel comfortable with it. I know everyone thinks that oh its another teen that will kill himself but I know what speed can do. I raced go carts all my life and I race moto x now and I know what falling of your dirtbike feels like to bare hard ground at 60mph and there is no car around you to absorb some of that energy. Im just saying I know the consequences of stuff and why would I go out and be stupid with something I just spent all my money on and crash it, I want to enjoy it for a little while ya know. oh and I think im maxed out the 190,000 mile stock ka24de, ya i can drive it and its not like I havnt driven quick cars, once again not trying to prove anything but my buddies got a mk4gti with a giac chip and a bunch of goodies runnin 18psi of boost, its quick and fun and I drive that all the time and my ive been around pro street cars and drag racing all my life and I can handle entering boost because I have had the equivalent in torque
 
#18 ·
beleive me I understand how fast it can be, but thats what I love about the computer.
No you can't understand how fast it can be because you have never driven anything with a power to weight ratio of 4.3.

I can set boost to 2 psi and run that for however long until I feel comfortable with it.
Set the boost to 2psi?... are you f-ing stupid? First off you can't set the boost below whatever spring is in the wastegate. Second to avoid boost creep on a 600 hp application which will be 30+ psi you will need a good solid 1.8-2 bar spring in your wastegate along with an excellent boost controller. This all means you will not be able to "turn down the boost" below 1.8-2 bars (and if math is hard for you, thats 26.5 psi - 29.4 psi). A weak (low psi in respect to what the boost controller is set at) wastegate spring is the quickest way to blowing your motor.

I know everyone thinks that oh its another teen that will kill himself but I know what speed can do. I raced go carts all my life and I race moto x now and I know what falling of your dirtbike feels like to bare hard ground at 60mph and there is no car around you to absorb some of that energy. Im just saying I know the consequences of stuff and why would I go out and be stupid with something I just spent all my money on and crash it,
All it takes is second, no matter how "in control" you think you are. And no, just because you've driven things with torque doesn't mean you know how to drive a boosted car. You apparently don't understand, boost isn't like torque, you get torque 24/7 so if going around the corner you press the gas, you can feel how much power you are using and adjust so that you don't loose traction or control. With boost you will do the same thing except you wont feel much power and about mid way around the corner the boost hits and theres nothing you can do at that point to control the power because its too late.

Also you would go out and crash it because your mind is still under development and its been proven that upper year teenagers lack the ability to understand long term consequences (I'll link the newspaper and popular science article if you want). So no matter how "responsiblie" you think you will be.... You won't be.
 
#17 ·
i used to race dirt bikes.. speed way bikes (500cc no gear/no brakes around an oval track) and i have been into cars for a while now.. and i still f- up alot. cars and bikes are a huge difference.. on the road you have HARD things to hit.. and things that are moving in other directions... etc, versus having to land on the slope of a jump.. or 3 feet down and slide.. cmon man.. if you had hit a tree on your bike.. do you think you wouldnt have hurt yourself?

now imagine speeds increased 3 fold... and now your bigger and harder to avoid other objects. you could be dead in aheart beat... too many people play that game and lose.
 
#19 · (Edited by Moderator)
I'm sorry, I just cant accept that you will be able to control 600hp financially (on your own) and mentally. I know there are some yound race car drivers that are very good, but they only drive about 350whp cars...granted they are light but they are still have a higher hp-weight ratio than a 600hp s13.

You dont NEED 600whp anyway and also, you cant just "turn down the boost" Also, if your running 2psi (which is basically impossible) what the hell is the point of have the 600whp car? I just dont want you to kill anyone else...you obviously dont think your going to kill yourself, so why not make is safe for the rest of the world and just make it a track only car?
 
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#21 · (Edited)
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TiNyT: "I swear dad, I wanst messing around on the street...I was just driving normal"
TiNyT's Dad: "Well son, what am I going to tell Mr. Johnson when he finds out his wife and two kids arent comming home tonight?"
TiNyT: "I just thought I could handle it dad...."(proceeds to cry at his ignorance and realization that he took three people lives just because he THOUGHT he could....)

I'm sorry, I just cant accept that you will be able to control 600hp financially (on your own) and mentally. I know there are some yound race car drivers that are very good, but they only drive about 350whp cars...granted they are light but they are still have a higher hp-weight ratio than a 600hp s13.

You dont NEED 600whp anyway and also, you cant just "turn down the boost" Also, if your running 2psi (which is basically impossible) what the hell is the point of have the 600whp car? I just dont want you to kill anyone else...you obviously dont think your going to kill yourself, so why not make is safe for the rest of the world and just make it a track only car?
where can I meet you so I can drive into you

ya
 
#25 ·
You do know that 600hp is like god right. You car will way a lil over 2000lbs when its done, be totally unstreetable, and cost more than 20k when its done. You may hit 350hp on the setup you listed with your knowledge.

Do you even know what the word magnafluxed means. Ok look ill make a nice list for what you can handle, and then Ill make the 600ho list for you.

**Note for the 240 vets I am basing all of my piston knowledge on my 400hp B18 honda and rotary builds, I havnt worked on many nissans so please exuse my lack of accual knowledge**

WHat you cn handle

Ka24DE
crank pulley
header
catback

600Hp build

**Block Machining**
Line honed
decked head surface
Bore and hone on cylinders

*Crank*
Buy an aftermarket unit, and
Balanced
Knife edged
W milling
polished
oil galley modification

*rods, and pistons*
Afterharket Hbeam rods, and fordged pistons
Balanced
rings gaped
bearings fitted
ARP rod bolts(or other highstrength)

Assemble block with Aftermarket bearing(ACL FTW), and then Ill talk to you later. Maybe about a year because you have just spent a grand total of around 5500$ on just a shortblock.
 
#27 ·
also he left out a very valuable peice to his 600hp build for a sr..see my friend brandon has a fully built sr20..and hes making 400whp and he has a mear 18 grand into motor wokr....the valuable piece i am talking about to hit 600whp is an hks stroker kit! to have a 2.2l thats the only way
 
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#29 ·
regardless of how unrealistic you sound... well people can dream right; true but.. i saw one thing right away... all these high dollar mods but you put MEGAN RACING C/O ... spend the money on some real shit if you ever get to that point

I also have a turbo for sale if you cant afford a new GT... I have a used HKS GT3037... make me an offer
 
#34 ·
FirePlugs build is what I am baseing mine off of, granted he is running a pt67(t4). my motor plan is quite similar, Im hoping to get low to mid 500hp. I got my turbo and block a couple days ago and my crank head and comp cam valve springs are on the way thanks to DBrass. The car is down to just the front suspension and fuel tank, dash and all the interior is gone and it should be sent off to the media blaster soon. I know I made a jackass of myself earlier but I dunno I guess im just tryin to save it now. i know I have a lot of research to do yet but I just wanna try it. you cant buy experience its gotta come from somewhere and anyone that has a ton of experience got it by trying stuff as a kid, messing up and making it work, and thats where im at. Ill have pics of my progress up tomorrow if anyone cares.
 
#35 ·
600hp in a 15 yo car with 200k miles.. yikes. Well nick hogan had a 700+ hp supra when he was 15, so i guess its okay for everyone :-D woot. Althought it would be crazy to drive a 600hp s13 on the street, except there is no where on the roads where you could use 600 hp except maybe gaining speed onto a freeway. If you boost to 600 hp anywhere thats not a long wide stretch your probably gonna hit something, or just make alotta smoke..
 
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