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Will SR20 swaps be around in four years?

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#1 ·
I need help in deciding what to do. I am frantically starting to save for swap because I am worried that the SR20 swaps won't be available in 4 years. 4 years being when I graduate college, and have good income to start a swap. Right now, should I buy suspension stuff/ other misc things, and just wait when I have good job in 4 years, or should I save for swap so I could have it in like 2 years. I have only had car like a month, so I am still learning how to drive car,but I am pretty good now, after coming from AWD. Help, what should I do? Any input would be extremely helpful!!!

Zach
 
#3 ·
I have already done a "Mad JDM Tyte Yo" swap with my scooby, so yes I liked the "JDM mad tyte powa!" As for SR20s, I have been in love with them since my other project, and I have always wanted one of them. I don't care about trends, I know what JDM engine(swaps) are capable of etc. I am not new to swaps or a person that read about them in superstreet, LMFAO!! I need to know if I should start saving for conversion, or if I can put it off a couple more years so I can buy suspension for now.

Zach
 
#5 · (Edited)
I will not go ka-t, because I wont trust an NA bottem end with a pathetic 6-8 psi. Not to mention, I dont want to rebuild it. Guess I'll start saving more and Ill see what I end up with in a couple of years.

Zach

Not bashing KA lovers etc. I didn't research this, I have really no interest in turboing a KA, so ignore the accidentally "ignorant" statement.
 
#6 ·
jdm_scobaru said:
I will not go ka-t, because I wont trust an NA bottem end with a pathetic 6-8 psi. Not to mention, I dont want to rebuild it. Guess I'll start saving more and Ill see what I end up with in a couple of years.

Zach

that is the most ignorant statment i have ever heard reguarding a KA-T setup. 6-8psi on a KA makes more power than your beloved SR at the same boost levels. with proper tuning the stock bottom end of a KA can hold its own against a SR. a little research would have enlightened you to that fact. im not going to start the retarded SR vs KA argument so please dont start either.


Mr. JDM TyTe SR20DET in 4 years, how much boost do you plan on running on your 15-20 year old SR20DET without a rebuild when you do get it? do you think your gonna drop that fuckin motor in there and crank the boost up while sustaining reliability since its turbo from the factory?

furthermore if you cant manage to save 2 grand in less than four years for a SR swap, i think you have the wrong hobby or job. im a full-time student in college plus i still gross over 1500 a month personal trainning.


dont be such an ignorant idiot around here.

thanks
 
#7 ·
jdm_scobaru said:
I will not go ka-t, because I wont trust an NA bottem end with a pathetic 6-8 psi. Not to mention, I dont want to rebuild it. Guess I'll start saving more and Ill see what I end up with in a couple of years.

Zach
lol, I guess you have a lot to learn then. I say go with suspension. It's always a good start into modding a car. SR's will always be around. Unless some movie sparks a new trend and a bunch of newbs start drifting sr powered 240sx's into trees or something.
 
#9 ·
Not trying to start an argument here. And there is no way that I can even come close to $1000 a month, maybe $500 if I am extremely lucky. BTW, I am also a full time student with 16 credits, and I do have a job. Didnt mean anything by the 6-8psi statement about the KA motor I made, I just made a general turbo NA statement, never said it would be slow, or not hold its own to an SR, I am not going to research a KA turbo anything, because that just doesn't interest me at all. I am in no way trying to be ignorant. Anyways back onto topic, no I dont have plan just stick it in there and boost blah blah. I have done Version 2 WRX Type RA conversion into a 93 L before, and I know how to care for/ fix things in a conversion etc. I am not into drifting by really any means, no where to do it, and I hate fixing things that could have been avoided etc. I want the SR, because it is a stout powerplant from the start over the KA, these motors can make power so easily, (unlike my scooby), there is a crapload of aftermarket support, and well, I don't mean to sound gay, it is a "prestigious" motor, and also I want to have all the credit for doing the coversion and having a nice rare toy to play with.

Zach
 
#10 ·
TwoFortySX said:
Mr. JDM TyTe SR20DET in 4 years, how much boost do you plan on running on your 15-20 year old SR20DET without a rebuild when you do get it? do you think your gonna drop that fuckin motor in there and crank the boost up while sustaining reliability since its turbo from the factory?


dont be such an ignorant idiot around here.

thanks
If you read one of my above posts, I have done a swap already, and you should assume that I know that more boost=more fuel needed. That is an ignorant statement and your sarcasm isnt needed. I also know what needs to be done when upping the boost to maintain reliability such as a Power FC etc. Upping the boost when the car is tuned is fine, and if done by a reputable shop, I would trust that more than if the motor was still on stock map.

Zach
 
#11 ·
just shut the fuck up and keep reading Super Street, leave the motors to the real enthusiasts. You seriously have no idea what your talking about. If you want you can tug on my nuts if it makes you feel better.
 
#13 ·
jdm_scobaru said:
If you read one of my above posts, I have done a swap already, and you should assume that I know that more boost=more fuel needed. That is an ignorant statement and your sarcasm isnt needed. I also know what needs to be done when upping the boost to maintain reliability such as a Power FC etc. Upping the boost when the car is tuned is fine, and if done by a reputable shop, I would trust that more than if the motor was still on stock map.

Zach

thats not what i meant at all. i wasnt questioning your knowledge of increasing the boost on a motor. every idiot knows that when you increase the boost you need to increase the amount of fuel! thats basic car knowledge or atleast id hope so!

what i was talking about is condition of the 15-20 year old motor you plan on swapping in an modifying for these lofty HP gains over a turbo KA motor without a rebuild.

you should just go away. if you would have asked this queer question anywhere else you would have been lucky to get any real responses.

save your retaliation for someone else because im done with your fast and furious wannabe ass!

Jimmy
 
#15 ·
pumaking said:
just shut the fuck up and keep reading Super Street, leave the motors to the real enthusiasts. You seriously have no idea what your talking about. If you want you can tug on my nuts if it makes you feel better.
**240SX 101. NO FLAMING ALLOWED**:nono

Anyway, I agree with you, scobaru. Stick with an engine that is designed for FI from the factory.

As for what you should do, if I were you I would save up as much money as you can. Fix whatever issues you have (if the car needs things like a clutch or anything engine-wise that can wait, hold off on it until you do the swap.)

Based on my 10 years+ modding cars, plans change ALL THE TIME, however, one things ALWAYS is the case.....$$$ The more you save, the better off you can accompolish your goals. My moto when it comes to cars....save as much $$ as you can and only do it when you can do it right. I have seen TOO many people waste money because they didn't plan. Also, who knows what you will want in 4 years. There will be other newer cars that I bet you will want over the 240.
 
#17 ·
just sell the damn car and buy an already put in sr motor off ebay if you really cant afford one duh!
 
#18 ·
I say do your suspension first, you dont need the sr right now since you're attending college.(not sure if you own an extra car or have access to another car while your doing the swap)
 
#20 ·
jdm_scobaru said:
I will not go ka-t, because I wont trust an NA bottem end with a pathetic 6-8 psi. Not to mention, I dont want to rebuild it. Guess I'll start saving more and Ill see what I end up with in a couple of years.

Zach

Not bashing KA lovers etc. I didn't research this, I have really no interest in turboing a KA, so ignore the accidentally "ignorant" statement.
You do have a valid point. At some time the supply of SR motors will run out.

However, even though this is 240sx 101, no flaming (on newbs like you) allowed, you DO have a duty to be respectful to the members here. There are a few KA-T guys on here with some crazy setups and your statement about not going KA-T makes you look really ignorant (Even though they did choose the wrong motor nah nah nah j/k ka-t guys!) The KA has a lot of potential. Tuning is key. I've seen 450whp KA-turbos running on stock internals so yes it can be done.
 
#22 ·
Hey I know I have like no rep here (newb) to you guys. I just don't post much. But ummm the guy never said they KA-T Suck. He just dosn't want one and thats his opinion/decision. He is only asking for your guys help and he himself stated that he didn't mean to sound ignorant. I mean I don't think that you guys are going to start bashing on every single person on this site with SR's because they didn't just go KA-T are you??

I say if you really want it and can afford it without selling one of your nuts then get it now before that dumb fucking fast and furious tokyo "drift" movie comes out. Yes that means you have a couple of months to get one before every one starts selling their civics for FR cars. After that movie comes out, I'm just going to get into off roading or rallying until the next f&f movie comes out.
 
#23 ·
jdm_scobaru said:
I have no idea how this got out of control, this is getting ridiculous. anyways thankyou for the real responses that I got. I will just start saving untill I can afford conversion.

Zach
well if you want a real unbiased opinion of your situation, ill give you mine.

i believe that a SR20DET "swap" will still be around in 4 years and the availability of the engines will still be high. I dont see them becoming a rare find because in reality SR20DETs and S13 are by no means RARE.

you have to think of it like this, the sr20dets that are in america now arent going to be sent back to japan. i think that a s13 with a sr20det with become someone common on ebay and many other sites because some new trend will have taken the tuning world.

if you want a sr20det in your car: work 2 jobs this summer and save all of the money that you can. you should be able to save up 1 or 2 grand in that time which could almost buy you the swap. since your a college student at the moment explore you options for credit. i would never reccomend building a car on credit but since your limits will be fairly low, i dont see you getting in deeper than you can handle!

how bad you want this swap and what your willing to do to get it will determine the amount of time its going to take to get it.

not a single person on this site built their car in a day, we have all taken months and years to get to the point we are all at!

i personally have the money to build my car if i would so choose but it would also prohibit just about any other things in my life. im really not trying to tell a girl i meet at a club that i cant afford a drink for her because i have a fast car. if you know what i mean?

anyway, i wasnt trying to be a dick but there is an increase in bandwagon members. when we bash a new person to the site is our way of keeping our choice of car somewhat untainted. none of us want to be driving the next honda civic of the tuning world and be seen with the same scrutinizing eyes that other car enthusiasts look at them with. its not that all civic drivers are idiots but its just a general assumption that they are :)

Jimmy
 
#24 ·
Thankyou, that post helps me out a lot. Yes I would like to do at least have the conversion in my garage/storage place, so that over time, I can by clutch, flywheel, simple stuff to put on. I guess, I would like to have in my possesion, the frontclip/swap etc. so that at least I have it, and then I can start once I have everything that I need. I am not part of badwagon fast and furious people. I have wanted to do SR conversion before my Suby conversion, and all throughout it too. I finally sold the scooby so that I could start SR project. So in a sentence, I have wanted one since I was a sophmore in high school which was like 4 years ago.

Thanks again,
didn't mean to be mean or anything before,
Zach
 
#26 ·
her is the secanario... ok supposedely (using as an examples) there are 1000 240's in the US. and there are about 300-500 sr swaps available. the chances of you NOT getting a swap in the future is neil.
because out of those 1000 240's lets say about
200 of them already have sr swap
other 100 wither have ka-t or RB. now about
500's are daily drivers or people who dont have enough money to buy shit for it now for the rest of the 200 are project cars / wrecked / old women drivin it etc etc.

so ya got for the suspension.. the swap will be available for like next 5 years LOL. and remember "power is nothing without control."