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importing JDM silvia

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#1 ·
Im from Cincinnati and theres a shop here owned by a guy who goes to Japan to get motors and clips almost every two weeks. I was talking to him and he mentioned that theres a way of importing a whole car (as "parts") on paper, and registering it and insuring it as a kit car. Im not sure how legal this sounds. Has anybody else ever heard of or done this? If so any input would be helpful. Thanks
 
#2 ·
To my knowlage the jdm 240sx/180sx/sileighty/ect... is not legal to be driven in the us because it has not been legalized by the DOT, Crash testing, smog/obd1 obd2 ect. It also depends on state. There is a thread somewhere in this forums talking about this exact subject and theres a link that list cars that are legal to be driven in the US by the department of transportation. If you dont know about motorex and what they went through to get skylines legalized the same must be done for the 240sx. Its not illegal to have the car for "off-road" or show purposes but to drive it on the street is another thing. Use SEARCH you will find your answers. Having it imported as a "parts car" and registering it as a kit car all depends on the state you live in due to headlights, signal lamps, side markers, tires, the actual motor crash testing and saftey. There is alot into driving a car that was not made for the us... find the link that list what cars imported cars are legal to drive in the us. And check with your local dmv ask questions and search and your answers will be found.

Welcome to the forums, Using the search button can be a powerful tool have to get a little creative soemtimes due to word legenth minimum i.e.(words must be atleast 3 letters long). Plz search cuz you will get flammed by someone and then it gets out of control. But none the less this is a great growing community and welcome to the forum.
 
#3 ·
no he is talking about a kit car. kinda like the ones that you can buy for hot rods and shit. build them up and register. i am not sure about an already built car being taken apart then rebuilt. might want to check it out though. sounds like too much work though. nothing much more then the steering wheel on the right side.
 
#4 ·
I actually went to go talk to the guy again. He said he has a friend in Nevada who wil register the car there because apparently they have really lax registration laws. The guy actually changes all the glass in the car because its not legal for some stupid red tape reason. He modifies the radiator support and some other minor stuff. All this costs like 7 thousand though. Then he ships it to you as a kit car. Since it is sold originally "as parts" even though its not really, it's legal (at least in Ohio) regardless if its RHD and has the SR20DET which as we all know wasnt sold here. So getting the car is about 10K in Japan, shipping it to Nevada another 2K or so, registering it there is 7K, making for a GRAND total of arounf 20K for a RHD Silvia with a stock SR20.... I think ill pass. BTW I did search for a similar topic- the one someone suggested didn't answer my question. Thanks anyway...
 
#5 ·
mmm, as far as i know, motorex has a monopoly on all cars coming from japan(aka, you're forced to go thru them if it comes from japan). Either way, getting that bitch through customs would be a HUGE pain in the ass, and if they don't like it, then too bad. Plus for the cost of doing all that you could have 2 10 sec quarter, 1g skidpad, USDM 240's.
 
#7 ·
MotoRex doesn't have a monopoly on ALL cars coming from Japan. So far, they're the only company to take the initiative to crash test and EPA certify Skylines... If someone else got together the money they could, on any car- including the Silvia. Anybody feel like importing five or six JDM RHD S14s and crashin em? Please....?
 
#8 ·
I imagine you would only need 2. But that was from a manufacturer's report about the PT cruiser's initial federalization...different laws and different circumstances, rah rah shishcoombah.

Hmmm....wouldn't motorex actually be an oligopoly ?

This I present to you out of fun - not a heated debate, more or less, intellectual stimulation if you please.

GOOD NIGHT
 
#9 ·
actually a friend and I were thinking of importing silvias but as stated b4 for track and off road use only
 
#10 ·
Dr. Evil said:
Hmmm....wouldn't motorex actually be an oligopoly ?

This I present to you out of fun - not a heated debate, more or less, intellectual stimulation if you please.
GOOD NIGHT
hmmm...good point...however, an oligopoly usually implies a slight difference in products (i.e. tennis shoe manufacturers hold an oligopoly -- Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc.). they inadvertantly (or sometimes directly) work together to influence market price, but the only individual means of profit are through the miniscule amount of market power that each company carries (a.k.a. the power of the brand name). motorex can be seen as a type of oligopoly (called a duopoly, because there is one more firm present in the industry...i forget what the company is called, but as far as i know, they're the only one besides motorex that imports skylines). but they've basically come together to share monopolistic attributes (namely the high profit margins/costs), rather than differentiating themselves from one another (by selling slightly different products at discernable price levels, i.e. selling silvias/180sx's). because of the similarities in the products being offered (they both sell skylines), and because i can talk about motorex all day yet i can't even remember the name of the other company, i'd have to lean more towards calling motorex a monopoly (because in all honesty, what's the first thing that pops in your head when considering about buying a skyline in the states?). i'm more than welcome to any comments or oppositions on this subject matter...

hahaha...Microeconomics 304k w/ Christy Spivey, Ph.D.....biggest hooters i've ever seen on a teacher before :yummy ...but hell, at least i was able to pay attention to a little bit of economics
 
#11 ·
Dr. Evil said:
I imagine you would only need 2. But that was from a manufacturer's report about the PT cruiser's initial federalization...different laws and different circumstances, rah rah shishcoombah.

Hmmm....wouldn't motorex actually be an oligopoly ?

This I present to you out of fun - not a heated debate, more or less, intellectual stimulation if you please.

GOOD NIGHT
lol..stupid economics class. but yes, you're right.
 
#12 ·
I offered oligopoly because it is described as a market condition, negating any direct influence a single firm might attempt to have on a market. I'm not familiar with Motorex's direct business practices, but I'd imagine that in such a niche market, competition, or anything that could be misconstrued as such, would be rather limited due to the limited demand of the product, not necessarily the limited supply. If Nissan started to market GTR's in the US, motorex would no longer have a monopoly/oligopoly by virtue of the shift in market condition, get me? Any action motorex is taking now to market its product lends little towards either point, monopoly vs oligopoly.

Now that I think about it - it could be both a monoply AND an oligopoly depending on your point of view...

Heh...This has to be one of the most pleasant threads in which I've ever participated...
 
#13 ·
you're points are well received, my friend. you referred to motorex as competing in a niche market, which i concur with. ergo it lessens the company's ability to fit comfortably under any of the market power labels (monopoly, oligopoly, or monopolistic competition...i lack to mention perfect competition, because it is irrelevant in this debate). based on your arguments (and based on the typical economic standing of a monopoly), i feel that we may have reached a slight disagreement. yes, competition is reduced by the limited demand, but limited demand goes hand in hand with limited supply (thus limited supply is just a big factor as the limited demand). vis-a-vis, the monopoly operates to the left of the market equilibrium, providing a limited supply to the market, and in turn deriving it's profits from the limited demand (e.g. the only people that can afford to purchase the car). my thoughts aren't meant to provide argument; they are purely expressed from a similar but slightly skewed standpoint. you do relay a good point, however; if nissan were to bring the gtr stateside, the increase in the supply curve would force motorex to lessen their monopolistic hold on their niche, bringing the price of a skyline down to more moderate (equilibrium) levels.

so in summation, our views stand alike...motorex can either be classified as a monopoly or an oligopoly (w/ monopolistic attributes).

haha...this is hilarious...i parallel your enjoyment in this thread, Doc.
 
#16 ·
that's true....you can swap vin numbers, but if they don't believe you, they have the right to rip your dash out and see if the firewall has been modified (because the only way you could have it rhd would be to do a rhd conversion...unless it's a registered skyline of course)....and they will literally rip the dash out (so i've heard). it's not worth it...someone on this forum is trying to import silvias (s15)....search around and you might find out who. there are companies that import rhd s13s and s14s legally...i've only found them sold on ebay though. if i had the opportunity, i would import the silvia varietta (the s15 convertible). i'm not a big fan of convertibles, but that thing is damn hot (but it's not turbo). anyways, good luck
 
#17 ·
Was the Varietta a mass produced convertible? Did Nissan make it? I forget...

I am impressed by the forums' breadth of knowledge- automotive and economic. I bet Honda forums just talk about clear tail lights and how many stickers they have. Kudos.