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#1 ·
Lookin to get a CAI and i was wondering what you guys might suggest as to most bang for the buck. thanks.
 
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#3 ·
Best bang for the buck is making your own after relocating the battery to the trunk (or at least to where the air filter previosuly was, which is the driver's side). Then just run some piping to a cone filter by the vent in the bumper. I haven't done it myself yet. I just have a cone filter on the end of the stock plastic piping :)

If you want a commercial solution you have to buy injen's intake AND then their cold-air extension. Now I'm not knocking injen, but the 240sx stock intake piping is already too long in my opinion. So to make it even longer seems wasteful (and it's an expensive solution $$$).

A cone air filter and MAS adapter can be had for $49.99 from enjukuracing.com

I wish someone (maybe someone here with some welding skills ;) ;)) would offer to sell short ram (requiring battery relocation) CAIs for cheap. Even just the piping would be cool as I have the filter already. Well good luck in your quest. BTW did you have an s13 or s14?
 
#4 ·
You do NOT need the Cold Air Extention with the Cold Air Intake, it's a simple addition to their intake which relocates the filter to the wheel well, which has colder air. As for the comment about the length of the piping, the Injen CAI's piping is just as long as stock, it is not longer. This is how misinformation gets spread around. If you aren't sure what you're saying is true don't say anything at all.
 
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Tyler said:
You do NOT need the Cold Air Extention with the Cold Air Intake, it's a simple addition to their intake which relocates the filter to the wheel well, which has colder air. As for the comment about the length of the piping, the Injen CAI's piping is just as long as stock, it is not longer. This is how misinformation gets spread around. If you aren't sure what you're saying is true don't say anything at all.
Actually I'll have to disagree from your rude behavior. Injen's intake for the S13 at least is as long as stock pipe. You add the CAI add-on pipe and it becomes longer than stock pip from where the stock air box is to the bumper so I believe you would be wrong.

Jared
 
#7 · (Edited)
Tyler said:
You do NOT need the Cold Air Extention with the Cold Air Intake
Uh YEAH YOU DO if you want to answer his question! He asked:

Originally posted by twoforty
Lookin to get a CAI and i was wondering what you guys might suggest as to most bang for the buck. thanks.
I want to emphasize that he said CAI not just intake. The Injen short ram without the cold air extension doesn't qualify as a CAI now does it? Not to repay rudeness with rudeness but if you're going to respond harshly be damn sure YOU know what YOU'RE talking about and read the whole post first.

I also maintain that the piping is longer than stock... granted their is a stock resonator in the bumper, but this isn't exactly a pipe and the stock filter is located upstream of this in the engine compartment.

EDIT: I just wanted to say once again that I'm not knocking injen. I'm sure the product adds power and the CAI extension probably does as well (theoretically it should anyway). And even though I think it is longer than stock with the CAI extension, obviously the smoother and wider diameter piping is much better than the stock tubing. My only point was it's an expensive solution and if you would just relocated the battery you could make a shorter path to the bumper vent on the passenger side of the car (away from the exhaust side of the engine I might add!). In that respect I think it is a very cost effective and probably a better performance solution than anything I've seen commercially available.
 
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MaStA said:


Actually I'll have to disagree from your rude behavior. Injen's intake for the S13 at least is as long as stock pipe. You add the CAI add-on pipe and it becomes longer than stock pip from where the stock air box is to the bumper so I believe you would be wrong.

Jared
My rude behavior? You must be mistaken. Now as for your comment? You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about my friend. CAI stands for Cold Air Intake, NOT an extention. The extention is CAE, hence Cold Air Extention. He mentioned nothing about the extention, he just wants a CAI. Now since that is the case, it is NOT longer then the stock piping, it's just about exactly the same. There is no need for the CAE, which I previously stated. The CAE simply is an extention which bolts right up to the end of the piping of the CAI, right about where the old stock air box was. It extends the piping down through the wheel well to relocate the filter alone for cooler air. Now please tell me where im wrong? Dumbass. Keep your mouth shut if you don't know the hell you're talking about. <-- Now that is rude behavior, in response to your rude behavior :)
 
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SSDwellah said:


Uh YEAH YOU DO if you want to answer his question! He asked:



I want to emphasize that he said CAI not just intake. The Injen short ram without the cold air extension doesn't qualify as a CAI now does it? Not to repay rudeness with rudeness but if you're going to respond harshly be damn sure YOU know what YOU'RE talking about and read the whole post first.

I also maintain that the piping is longer than stock... granted their is a stock resonator in the bumper, but this isn't exactly a pipe and the stock filter is located upstream of this in the engine compartment.

EDIT: I just wanted to say once again that I'm not knocking injen. I'm sure the product adds power and the CAI extension probably does as well (theoretically it should anyway). And even though I think it is longer than stock with the CAI extension, obviously the smoother and wider diameter piping is much better than the stock tubing. My only point was it's an expensive solution and if you would just relocated the battery you could make a shorter path to the bumper vent on the passenger side of the car (away from the exhaust side of the engine I might add!). In that respect I think it is a very cost effective and probably a better performance solution than anything I've seen commercially available.
See my above post and tell me who doesn't know what they are talking about, mmmk? :)
 
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Tyler said:
You do NOT need the Cold Air Extention with the Cold Air Intake...

...See my above post and tell me who doesn't know what they are talking about, mmmk?...
Ummm I already did and the answer is YOU! First of all "you do not need the cold air extension with the cold air intake"... um that doesn't even make sense. Without the cold air extension it's not even a cold air intake, it's just a short ram or upgraded intake. So how can you add a cold air extension to a cold air intake?!? My point is that without the extension it's not a CAI. Here is a link to the intake (w/out the extension) on injen's site:

http://www.injen.com/webpages/intakes/intake_images/nissan/is1920p.JPG

Tell me how that's a CAI when it's drawing warm air from the engine compartment!!! It's NOT, it's just an intake or a short ram, if you will. That's why they made the CAI extension in the first place. Now twoforty asked about CAI which is why I mentioned the intake WITH the extension. Apparently you still didn't read the posts or you don't know the distinction between an intake and a cold air intake.

Originally posted by Tyler

He mentioned nothing about the extention, he just wants an intake.
CORRECTION!!! He didn't just ask for an intake... he asked for a COLD AIR INTAKE (CAI). Don't believe me? Re-read the first post. It's only one sentence, it's hard to get confused by that! Without the CAI extension it is just and intake. Once more, look at the link I provided. The 'basic' intake (no extension) draws warm air from the engine bay, and in that respect it's even less of a 'CAI' than the stock system (which at least plumbs into the aweful resonatotr in the bumper), and by that respect not a CAI at all. The point of the CAI extension is not to extend a CAI, but to extend an intake into a colder region (the bumper) so that it will BE a CAI. It wasn't before. Hopefully this is painfully clear now.

240sx + injen intake --> upgraded intake but not CAI
240sx + injen intake + CAI extension --> CAI
 
#12 ·
ballr858 said:
well, although CAI means cold air intake and CAE means cold air extension, withouth the CAE it wont even be a CAI. if it is just the short ram then there is no cold air coming through the filter.
EXACTLY!!! And more succinct than my long tirade :)

No offense Tyle, I hope there's no grudge between us but I wanted to make the distinction between CAI and intake perfectly clear. And after all twoforty DID ask for a CAI in his post.
 
#15 · (Edited)
Despite the fact that technically you're right when it comes to the Injen not being a CAI without the CAE, the gains spefically for the 240sx (keeping in mind some cars are more sensative to heat then others) relocating the filter below the fender will expose it to more air, sure - but at the same time it extends the amount of travel the air has to go through with more piping. I highly doubt one will see much of any worthwhile gain by doing this with a NA engine. (turbo is another story) I mean the "short ram" injen intake positions the filter inches away from the exposed hole, for colder flowing air. I just don't see this making such a big difference at all. I'd love to see some dyno graphs on this :D

Anyway, I read his post the first time, I was wrong technically - but atleast I can admit that much. I myself still consider any aftermarket intake to be a CAI, simply because it flows alot more cold air then that piece of shit resinator box does. Apparently so does 240sx.org considering they label the Injen Intake as a CAI, without the CAE. But anyway, no hard feelings SSDwellah & MaSta :)
 
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RaVeD240sx said:
and i my self cosider that __ my clucth is a performance 1 ___ because is an after market (pepboys) clucth.. not OEM but an after market hu..;)
Haha good one smart ass. Learn to spell first, ok? Kind of a big difference between your smart ass comment and the point I was trying to make.
 
#19 ·
Anyhow* and no, you don't have a point - what you said has absolutely no relevance to this subject, you apparently just decided to be a grammatically incorrect smartass.
 
#21 ·
Judging from your past posts, I find it quite funny you have the nerve to call ME a ricer, lol. I'm not going to sit here and argue about this with you because you decided to make a smart ass comment which served no purpose.

P.S.
Yeah I got what you were TRYING to say the first time, dipshit.

Late.
 
#22 ·
Tyler go away no one agree's with your...exactly your wrong replacing stock pipe isn't a cold air intake...still in the engine bay drawing hot air from the engine just like a stock intake. Your wrong just keep your mouth shut and end it here then maybe we won't have hard feelings. Your rude period

Jared
 
#23 ·
Fuck off Masta, lol...go check some of your first posts on these forums - I think some of the worst questions on these boards were asked from you. I wassn't going to mention anything, but since you're being a prick, why not?

I'm not going anywhere - wishful thinking perhaps, but that's the keyword, wishful.