I wouldn't use the rears, id get some 200sx seat belts. As far as your prob, sorry cant help.

 

Some seat belt retractors have a little weight on a stem that is meant to go forward under sudden deceleration and lock the seat belt, keep it from pulling out. On a lot of cars that weight will lock the mechanism if the car is on a steep hill. If you change the way the retractor is setting you're tripping off that lock.

 

Now I remember someone saying to never use rear seat belts for fronts. Why, aside from the weights that are my problem, would it be an issue?

 

Also, I think JDM 180s or maybe silvia came with manual seatbelts, also, I think s14 seatbelts can be retrofitted.

 

jdm 180sx seatbelts or canadian 240sx seatbelts are your best bet. s14 fronts will also work.

 

As far as I know the only Nissans with auto seatbelts are american. Canadian and Japanese Nissans (Silvia and 180sx I know) all had manual. It was kind of a trend from the early 90's I think because my '92 Eagle Talon also had them and I hated them as well.
I know that 180s will work perfectly but are $100+. Silvias will work but the trim won't for hatchbacks so you have to hack your trim or find the panels. S14s I've heard there is an issue with one bolts length and you have to do something to the interior for it to fit right.
I know of some s14s that I could get so I might get those and see how they fit. If they don't work I'm only out $25.
If I do get those does anyone know about the bolts and the trim that you have to modify?

 

anyone know if the seat belts from a pulsar or 300zx will fit?

 

keep an eye out on ebay they sell 200sx manual seatbelts, every thing to make it stock looking, all trim for $200

 

By 200sx, you mean the European/Australian 240sx, not the USDM 240sx, correct?

Also, the Silvia seat belts will fit perfectly, just like the 180sx ones, but for both you need to get the interior trim pieces to match for the hatchback. Also, I remember someone here who posted that the got Nissan to change the seat belts at like 1/2 cost or less, cause apparently theres is a Nissan TSB announcement stating that the auto seat belts are defective. You might try this, but I think it depends on the dealer/how convincing you are (IE hope you are good at BSing )

 

JDM panels won't align with USDM panels. They are totally different. I just bit the bullet and bought 180sx seatbelts with b-pillar panels for $100. I used the JDM panels as templates to cut out holes in my USDM panels with a dremel:

FYI there is a spacer located in the top mounting hole of the seatbelt motor. Use that to space out the pulley. If you get 180sx seatbelts then everything should bolt right in.

 

Really? Learned something new today, I always thought the JDM 180sx interior panels were the same as the USDM. Thats wierd that Nissan made the different, then again, Nissan did a lot of weird stuff anyways

 

Yeah, I tried to install the JDM panel but it straight wouldn't fit. Yes, Nissan is weird like that.

 

So I might be better off to just get s14 belts and cut my own interior pieces?
And nobody knows about the bolt being too short and having to cut the panel to fit over part of the retractor? I want to know about these before I try to install them.

 

The s14 belts won't hook right up. The top mouning tab is too short. Crappy pic because you can't see the top hole because the belt is covering it. Just use a ziptie to tighten up the slack haha:

Photo courtesy of akademikone on zilvia. Here's a link to the thread:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=132820&highlight=s13+seatbelts

Here is Stinky180's writeup. Sorry the pics don't work:

http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85063&highlight=s13+seatbelt

 

hahaha, ziptied seat belt, sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

 

if you have a coupe the panels work and match up with the rest of the panels, but you will see metal exposed because the JDM ones are much narrower. Also, you'll have the option to install the "oh shit" handle on the driver's side lol.

 

Why would they make the panels different like that? Would it not make sense to have everything be interchangable?

 

That's Nissan for you.

 

I guess it gives the cars "character".

 

canidian 200sx also has the manual belts.

 

the panels are different because of the auto seatbelt system. if you look at the headliner on USDM cars they are cut to leave room for added space for the system to be properly installed. this makes the panels different.

it was a bullshit luxury that as always lazy americans found somewhat desirable at one point. "never worry about forgetting to buckle up again." I mean come on... now we have cars that actually park themselves? wtf? decade from now we'll be able to take naps and just put the car on auto-pilot. unnecessary bullshit to drive up cost in cars and in repairs :crazyrant

 

Thats the damn truth. I can't stand cars that drive themselves. I'd never use the "auto-park" thing just like I wish I didn't have to use the auto seatbelts.

 

I was able to install the panels with no problem, except that the US headliner is not the same shape (due to the auto belt system making the trim bigger)., so i ordered a 180sx headliner from pandagarage

 

how'd you install the handle? us cars don't have the hole drilled for that crap. still have mine uninstalled

 

Wow, that even has the "Oh Shit" bar for the (japanese) passenger. But it seems that cutting the panels is the way to go unless you want to buy an entire interior or fabricate your own.

 

The "oh shit" handlebar makes it easier to get out of the car, which is kinda nice. But yea, if you dont mind having the old trim and still seeing the gap where the auto belt track goes, then just cutting the panel is easier. Plus you dont have to buy a new headliner.

 

Yeah, I just want manual belts, not a new interior. Besides pandagarage is expensive and shipping from Japan is horrible too.

 

P.S. Does anyone have the s14 conversion walkthrough with all the pictures that actually work? I would love to read it to see what I'm getting myself into.